Sigma 10 m 9

[Chalker]

Hi all
hopefully I am going to post a completely unbiased review on the sigma 10m9 wet saw. Thiscwill be done in parts over the next week or so as i use it.
Having not owned a rubi wet saw im not comparing.( so not getting into the rubi/ sigma debate.
This arrived on Thursday on a pallet.
first impression is that it looks very well made and quite simple in design. It's a heavy beast when all together but it splits down into a few main parts.

I have weighed the main parts and they come in as follows
Stand. 6 kg
Saw inc water tray and splash guard. 26kg
Sliding table. 21 kg
So in parts it's not bad at all to transport . It goes together very easily, first open up the stand and put the cutter on top, the sliding table inserts into two tightly machined holes and then you tighten up the angle adjusting bolts. The blade guard simply slots in under the cutting table.
So here it is complete. But without the blade guard and bevel.


Have tried a few cuts today using some 600 x 600 villeroy and boch porcellain tiles and it cuts perfectly square out of the box.
Mitreing is very good as there is no blade deflection.
The motor is very quiet and water spray is minimal, but it does drip off the table at various points.
On the bad side I can't stop it taking the corner off the tile when cutting from an point to point, no matter how slow I cut. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

I will post more and pictures of the cuts as I use it.

To summarise, right now I feel the same as when I got an "I phone" . Wouldn't be without it now but struggling at the moment.

 

[mz30]

when cutting point to point make a small incision with the blade first and then turn around and go the other way the weight of the largertiles make them snap in my experience

 

[demi34]

Very good machine I had my 16 months and is excellent

 

[Sigma UK]

when cutting point to point make a small incision with the blade first and then turn around and go the other way the weight of the largertiles make them snap in my experience

As above. I think there is a video on the Sigma website that shows this for the 10M9.

 

[DHTiling]

I have the baby sister to this machine , awesome quality they are.

As above to stop stress break out which happens on any wet saw , then insert a cut into the tile and then rotate for the rest of the length.

 

[Chalker]

This does not happen that often on the dewalt, it must be the fact that the cutting wheel is rotating the other way round.
Tried a parallel cut on a 100mm tile this morning using the fence. Was effortless, I cut off 30 mm without any break out.

 

[Ian]

Your neighbours will be loving you! It's not even 9am

 

[DHTiling]

This how Sigma demonstrate a diagonal cut.

[video=youtube;BxISv9Dh_00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxISv9Dh_00[/video]

 

[cam_low]

Which blade were you supplied with? I love my 9p more and more every day with 86c blade. Hi 5 to Dave for the heads up. Hopefully santa will drop me 10 on the 25th!

 

[Ian]

What can the 10m do that the 9p can't?

 

[DHTiling]

The 10m comes standard with an 86C cam..

 

[DHTiling]

What can the 10m do that the 9p can't?

It is a much bigger machine Bri , it can cut a longer length of tile from the fence without having to remove it ... and is ideal for repetitive cutting..

The motor is also a 3HP on the 10M .. the 9P is a 1HP...

 

[Ian]

It is a much bigger machine Bri , it can cut a longer length of tile from the fence without having to remove it ... and is ideal for repetitive cutting..

The motor is also a 3HP on the 10M .. the 9P is a 1HP...

Gotcha, so the 10 isn't really ideal for an everyday cutter due to its size.

 

[DHTiling]

I suppose it depends how strong you are :lol:

The 9P is an every day saw and the 10M is the beast for those large stone floors etc where you want the grunt to make the job easier... it makes the dewalt look like a toy.

 

[Ian]

I love my dewalt, I like the plunge feature most of all, makes non-straight cuts very accurate. You need to get this trade day organised so I can see what all the fuss is about!

 

[DHTiling]

I love my dewalt, I like the plunge feature most of all, makes non-straight cuts very accurate. You need to get this trade day organised so I can see what all the fuss is about!

Getting PHG to sort it is like pulling teeth .

 

[cam_low]

Sigma had a trade night at tile depot but only for dry cutters not so long ago...

According to del all saws will be supplied with 86c blades from now. What a bloody difference mind. Stock blade wants binned forever lol

 

[gamma38]

I would be interested in a trade eve to see and have a go depending on where it would be. I love my dewalt but i think mitre cuts would be easier on the Sigma. Don't know why just a feeling, not that the dewalt does them bad but sometimes the arm does get in the way.

 

[CJ]

Can Sigma arrange a trade day.....complete with overnight accommodation for those of us that live a bit to far away.


I have yet to see any Sigma in the raw :mad2:, let alone have a play.

 

[Ian]

I would be interested in a trade eve to see and have a go depending on where it would be. I love my dewalt but i think mitre cuts would be easier on the Sigma. Don't know why just a feeling, not that the dewalt does them bad but sometimes the arm does get in the way.

When you do mitre cuts, do you have the blade set at a fixed depth or plunge cut them gradually? If you use the plunge and slide it gives perfect results.

 

[Ian]

Getting PHG to sort it is like pulling teeth .

Just organise it and tell Dave you're hijacking his warehouse for a day

 

[gamma38]

Yes i do them gradually Bri, like i said i'm not unhappy with the results, it may be just a bit of the grass is greener scenario, and be no better or worse, but if it is better............

 

[Ian]

Yes i do them gradually Bri, like i said i'm not unhappy with the results, it may be just a bit of the grass is greener scenario, and be no better or worse, but if it is better............

Yeah I hear you mate, there is definitely some wander with the dewalt porcelain blade, I'd say that's more to do with the blade rather than the saw. When I've plucked up enough courage I'm going to order a DNA and see if that makes a difference.

 

[Chalker]

I would be interested in a trade eve to see and have a go depending on where it would be. I love my dewalt but i think mitre cuts would be easier on the Sigma. Don't know why just a feeling, not that the dewalt does them bad but sometimes the arm does get in the way.

The mitre cuts are easy and fast with no blade deflection as you are passing quite near to the centre mounting of the blade.
im going to make a bracket this week to mount a line laser, I know it seems over the top but with this saw i am struggling to line up the mark at the back of the tile. Straight edge works but a bit of a fiddle .

 

[DHTiling]

The mitre cuts are easy and fast with no blade deflection as you are passing quite near to the centre mounting of the blade.
im going to make a bracket this week to mount a line laser, I know it seems over the top but with this saw i am struggling to line up the mark at the back of the tile. Straight edge works but a bit of a fiddle .

Score the tile along the said point to point mark and follow that with your blade.... or use a china marker that does not wash off with the spray.

 

[Chalker]

Score the tile along the said point to point mark and follow that with your blade.... or use a china marker that does not wash off with the spray.

Thanks Dave , the problem I'm having is finding a reference point on the cutter to line up with the mark.

 

[DHTiling]

Score or mark the line on the tile..and follow that.

 

[Diggy]

Trade day! I'd be happy if they just had a 10m9 for me to buy.:-(

 

[stone tiler]

So guys whats your opinion on this ripping down 100mts of 1200 x 600 x 20mm limestone slabs to 1200 x 145 x 20mm? Is it going to cope and is it going to be easy/hassle free? The slabs are bloody heavy to move about. Am tempted now its in the for sale section!!

 

[Peter]

Used one on 600x600 20mm marble in the past with no problems. Saw was doing a lot of cutting per day for 6 weeks and even me as an apprentice couldn't break the tiles or stall the saw. :lol: