High Temperature Tile Adhesive

[Ian]

Went to look at a BBQ/fire pit today and the customer would like it tiled inside using brick slips, what sort of adhesive is going to be suitable to take those sort of temps! Probably 250/300 Celsius. I've had a look at a couple of PDFs of tilemaster products but can't find the required info. Just thought I'd ask before I ring technical help in the morning. It'll be gas by the way so no hot coals will be in the base.

 

[Ajax123]

I think the brick slips would suffer more than the adhesive. I would think they would undergo spalling quite quickly.

 

[Ian]

I think the brick slips would suffer more than the adhesive. I would think they would undergo spalling quite quickly.

They're cut from blue engineering bricks Alan so, I'm fairly happy they'll be ok. It's the adhesive that's my problem, so to speak, that's the bit I don't want to fail.

 

[Ajax123]

Oh ok bri. Interesting one. Sadly I have no answer but interested if you get one.

 

[Dave]

This might be of use to you Bri... >>> VITCAS Heat Resistant Tile Adhesive

 

[Ian]

This might be of use to you Bri... >>> VITCAS Heat Resistant Tile Adhesive

I saw that on a Google search Dave, found it a bit odd that it's ready mixed and it can only be bedded up to 3mm, sounds a bit too similar to dispersion adhesive to me. I'll be sticking them straight to blockwork and I'm not convinced it'll be flat or smooth enough for a 3mm bed.

 

[Dave]

I saw that on a Google search Dave, found it a bit odd that it's ready mixed and it can only be bedded up to 3mm, sounds a bit too similar to dispersion adhesive to me. I'll be sticking them straight to blockwork and I'm not convinced it'll be flat or smooth enough for a 3mm bed.

Some fire adhesives are tubbed , have a look at fire cement as well....

Most tile adhesives are only suitable to 100dgs if I recall rightly , so high temp fire adhesive like you say is required.

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

this depends on what the back ground the tiles are fixed to and how that can handle the heat tile master ultamat should handle the heat but if it cant pass some of that back to the substrate it may be a problem

 

[Just Rizzle]

most fire place companies will put a heat resistant board on to the walls ext and you fix the tiles to the board with the heat resistant abby

 

[Dan]

Did you find an answer from any adhesive firms @Bri

 

[Ian]

Did you find an answer from any adhesive firms @Bri

Yes I rang tilemaster, they said (after speaking to the chemists) that ultimate mixed with their flex additive would be sound for the job.

 

[Ian]

I'm starting this in the morning, I'll get a few pics up as I go along.

 

[Dan]

Everything confirmed and whatnot then?

 

[Ian]

Yeah, tilemaster are confident with the spec they've given to me. Can't ask for any more than that.

 

[Dan]

Just make sure you've got it in writing matey

 

[Ian]

Tilemaster are a stand up company, on the rare occasion I've seen people have issues with their products, they've sorted it straight away. That's one of the reasons I like them, they have excellent products and stand by them, and they're British.

 

[J Sid]

I spoke to Weber last year and there max end use temp was 100 C for there adhesive.

Bri , they may be a British company but are there products made or even bagged in Britain? Would be great if they would say, yes or no

 

[Ian]

I'm sure it's bagged in the UK it says on the bag that it's manufactured in Leyland, Lancashire. Anyway, this is what I'm doing, just the inside in brick slips.

 

[antdad]

I'm hetas registered so install stoves as well as construct and finish fire places and the odd pizza oven. I'd have no hesitation in using ready mixed fire cement in this application, it'll also be cheaper than any heat proof adhesive. You could also use a lime mortar 5:1:1 (sand:cement:lime) which I use to render in and around fireplaces, it's flexible and heat resistant.

 

[Ian]

Lunch time, it's going well! The ultimate adhesive + flex master additive combo is a tool ruiner, nightmare to clean off! Nice view as well.

 

[Ian]

All done, pleased with the end result. And the ultimate/flex master combo is one strong adhesive! Had to core a couple of holes in to the sides as the customers love to provide a spit roast at their parties.

 

[Lee@emctiles]

Bri , they may be a British company but are there products made or even bagged in Britain? Would be great if they would say, yes or no

Thats a statement and half Julian.......

im sure Mark at TileMaster would be delighted to offer you a tour of the factory in Leyland to prove to you they are making it.

 

[Mark@Tilemaster]

Bri , they may be a British company but are there products made or even bagged in Britain? Would be great if they would say, yes or no[/QUOTE]

Yes - we manufacture and bag all products ourselves here in Leyland, Lancashire.

My father Paul founded the company in 1990 originally making ready mixed tile adhesive, he then started producing his own powders in 1997. I joined him in 2002 following an unfortunate accident that Dad had, we were a 3 man band at the time and it has been an incredible journey of growth ever since.

We are currently in the process of having the manufacturing plant extended, we are adding an additional production line which will then give us 5 mixing and packing lines. Once the work has been completed, anybody wishing to visit is very welcome.

 

[Old Mod]

That sounds like an interesting offer!
I'd definitely like to attend.
I use your products given the choice and I'm very happy with them too!

 

[Ian]

Yep, I'll deffo come for a tour. I'll even wear my tilemaster coat for the occasion, it's still clean!

 

[Old Mod]

Yep, I'll deffo come for a tour. I'll even wear my tilemaster coat for the occasion, it's still clean!

Coat! U got a coat! Huh!

 

[Lee@emctiles]

TileMaster open day sounds a cracking idea once the new plant is up and running.

Might even suggest a night out......cant beat an away day night out

 

[Ajax123]

That sounds like an interesting offer!
I'd definitely like to attend.
I use your products given the choice and I'm very happy with them too!

Ive been too Tilemasters Factory. It is quite fascinating.

 

[Old Mod]

Ive been too Tilemasters Factory. It is quite fascinating.

Yeah sounds fascinating Alan, I've never been to an adhesive factory, definitely on my list to do!

 

[Dan]

I'd be up for that tour