First Paying Job Advice

[TARTAN TILER]

Hey all Nailed my first paying job today:hurray: two small bathroom floors total of 2.6m2 with a 300x330 slate tile with a 4mm spacer.

the downstairs loo is concreate the upstairs is like gray ply with a green membrane over it? The house is a new build.

The Addesive Im thinking of using is bal white star as it is flexible,water resistant and because it is such a small area thought ready mixed would be better. and white star comes in a 5 ltr tub.

The grout 3.5kg bag of bal microflex wide joint grout grey.


Could anyone tell me if they are the best products to select may sound like a daft question.

Thanks.

 

[Scott]

Nice one kilty, you'll learn more in a day than you probably did on any course

Budda, nice blue badge you got there

 

[TARTAN TILER]

Their is no chance guys of me passing an offer like that up. money is not the issue just be happy to learn some more

If only eveyone was as helpfull and willing as kilty

and thanks again to everyone for the advice.

 

[Gazzer]

Nice one Tartan and Jamie (Kilty) This is what the forum is all about...Helping not bitching !

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I don't know - I like a bit of verbal typing to keep the bit of hair on the back of my neck on end!
That's what makes this place so entertaining, and when people become Elite you should read some of the things that go on in there!
Parties, drinking, group discussions.
Jamie what day do you want the rest of us to come up!:lol:

 

[kilty55]

tj,can you pick up doug at hadrians wallon the way hes promised me a pimms if i hand over some shed felt:lol:

 

[Pebbs]

Tartan take all the advice you are given, it will only serve you well in the future. Every day you find you learn something new and it stands you in good stead.
Timeless John said something about having to toughen up out there in the 'real world', I am sure we all have exp's bad and good when we first started out. When I first started out, the lads on site made my life hell. Being female made it even worse, but you survive and now I make their lifes hell (only joking) they all ended up working for me so I must have done something right along the way. I have some horror stories about what they put me through but seeing as im sober I wont repeat them!
Hang in there!
Its a warzone out there!

Pebbs

 

[hillhead]

Work hard,play hard

 

[nybor62]

yo deffo need to over lay the floor .i would prob go for a rapid set addy with a flexi addetive what i mean is a 2 pack .more flexable than a single part flexi thats just my opinion mapei do a very good one + fugolastic addy for the grout .you will have 2 adjust your price i think

 

[diamondtiling]

Sometimes its better not to give any advice if you can't be positive.
We all have opinions but some remarks are better thought and not posted.

Too late - you've obviously got something stuck up your rear end!

That little statement is going into my black book for future use.......priceless.


:lol::lol:

 

[Mike]

plywood floors need at least a single part flexi adhesive where as concrete floors need non-flexi adhesives m8!
hope this helps!

that depends on what sort of tile is being laid on the concrete floor, e.g. porcelain would need a flexi adhesive due to the expansion/ contraction in the tile itself

 

[diamondtiling]

For Porcelain tiles always use a flexible adhesive.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

that depends on what sort of tile is being laid on the concrete floor, e.g. porcelain would need a flexi adhesive due to the expansion/ contraction in the tile itself

Could have read 'low porosity of the tile' so a polymer modified cement based adhesive should be considered.

 

[TheWrightTiler]

hi tartan,im doing a full stone bathroom refit in a few weeks time if you want you can pop in and ill show you how to use some products,,were using hardibacker boards,self levelling the floor,access panels to be made etc etc theres not enough on the job to pay you on the job but a few hours for a few days popping in mate will give you a good idea on how things are done,pm me if interested

ive got a floor in dunfermline starting monday if interested, sorry cant pay but will provide butties and brews and will gladly answer any queries and show u how i do things, estimate is 3 days on my own but with help i could do quicker but will gladly take the 3 days to go over things and explain addys etc

ive sent u a pm mate

we all had to start somewhere bud and this is by far the best forum

 

[davey-j]

While we are on the subject i am a teacher/ tiler and obviously we have more holidays than most so if there are any tilers that live near middleton manchester and want to show me a few things on floors, boarding,levelling,ufh anything i will come along and mix your addy for nothing and just pick up a few tips for a couple of days the week starting 31st may . I was new on here and remember i was really nervous putting my first post up but now thanks to the wide knowledge and good people on here i am confident and dont care how daft i sound so thanks guys.

 

[shogun rua]

hi tartan,im doing a full stone bathroom refit in a few weeks time if you want you can pop in and ill show you how to use some products,,were using hardibacker boards,self levelling the floor,access panels to be made etc etc theres not enough on the job to pay you on the job but a few hours for a few days popping in mate will give you a good idea on how things are done,pm me if interested

Hi Jamie,
I would jump at the chance of free training by the way im only 20 mikes away lol

Cheers
Paul

 

[kilty55]

where are you from shogun?

 

[shogun rua]

where are you from shogun?

Bathgate Jamie

 

[dptiling]

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[doug boardley]

the thing is dave , this is basic stuff. its tough out there at the moment , and when time served tilers here this sort or thing it does put your back up. no need to be rude agreed,
advice is one thing , nursing people is something else.

there was still no need for simon's remarks, Tartan was here to ask advice, and if people don't log on for that reason then why are we here?

 

[mikethetile]

the thing is dave , this is basic stuff. its tough out there at the moment , and when time served tilers here this sort or thing it does put your back up. no need to be rude agreed,
advice is one thing , nursing people is something else.

if you read between the lines on this dp theres a bit more to this

simhopper and tartan are in direct competition off the same local jobsite

tartan won the job and then asked for advice on here

I can see simhoppers point of view and understand why hes upset

simhopper is entitled to his view on this

but it was the way that he expressed his view that was the problem

those of us that know what we are at want to raise the bar on tiling in the uk so that only proffessionals are asked to tile

once customers see it done right they wont accept second best and will only employ the best

that means taking new tilers under our wing and nurturing them, we want them to ask for advice and if they get bitten for it they wont ask. their customers will suffer along with the reputation of the tiling trade

im sorry simon left but it was his choice to be removed

 

[TheWrightTiler]

just to add to this thread, ive had tony aka tartan tiler with me today and understand his point of view, he is a new tiler and used bals powerspec thing, it said white star and he only asked if this was correct, to get smacked for it is nonsense, we all had to start somewhere

to say he is in direct competition with simhopper is rubbish, yes they advertise via gumtree but tony has only had one quote and the punter only had one quote which was him and no one else was involved, why is simhopper upset then

today we boarded out 27m2 ply, set the tiles out so they ran true to 3 offset doorways, then laid just under 11m2

from his work i can see he is dedicated and i have no probs with his work or work ethics, i got help when i started and if more people did this then we would all be better tilers and ourmcustomers will be better served

to be true tony did actually do bout 80 per cent of the work, i just pointed out what id do or showed how id do this and that etc, then just let him get on with it

i bought the butties tho lol

cheers

andy

 

[diamondtiling]

Nice one Andy, we need more people like you in the world of tiling.

 

[mikethetile]

well if simon and tony are both on gumtree and didnt go for the same work then simons out of order in complaining that they are on the same site, gumtree is just a local site for selling goods and sevices

ive used bal powerspec and its a bit short on info so I dont bother now

the main thing here is that tony got the support of the forum

 

[TheWrightTiler]

well if simon and tony are both on gumtree and didnt go for the same work then simons out of order in complaining that they are on the same site, gumtree is just a local site for selling goods and sevices

ive used bal powerspec and its a bit short on info so I dont bother now

the main thing here is that tony got the support of the forum

exactly mike, if u look at simons site hes actually aplumber who offers a handman service and all trades so he isnt actually a time served tiler either, makes him just like any other newbie imho

andy

 

[mikethetile]

exactly mike, if u look at simons site hes actually aplumber who offers a handman service and all trades so he isnt actually a time served tiler either, makes him just like any other newbie imho

andy

sounds to me like sour grapes at tony finding work when hes struggling

I have noted in this rescession that people are looking for two types of contractor

those that handle the whole job from design to finish and the specialist

theres no room in the market for tradesman/ handyman

if they want a plumber they get a plumber

if they want a handyman they get a handyman

and so on

im specialising now and dont regret it

im pleased things worked out between you and tony

 

[TARTAN TILER]

Hi All

Just a quick msg to put everything straight. I have never met, been on the same site or domestic property as this guy Simon. There is no chance I could ever have undercut him on any job, it looks like this guy was looking for an opportunity to slag me off as we are in the same geographical area for work.

Thanks for all the advice and supportive comment and I would also like to thank Andy for inviting me along the past couple of days.

I hope Simon the Handyman has a busy year ahead.

 

[Dan]

Just bumping some of the older popular (sometimes not so popular) threads. Probably wont be current discussion these days but I just need to do it. So just ignore the thread if it's not current for you.