underfloor heating - tile moving dilemma

[gubbins]

Might be worth reading http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-ad...p-v-versus-primers.html?highlight=pva+primers

Thanks Jay, I i did some googling as soon as the primer was told to me, and that came up, very depressing. Also been reading them good threads recommending Gypfix for use on Gyvlon floors.

 

[gubbins]

Just to add, you can leave wet ufh running as long as it is set to the lowest temp, an ambient temperature.. it is the initial commissioning that is needed.. then you cool down to ambient..

Thanks Dave. Are there any official guidelines to the initial commisioning of UFHout there?

 

[jay]

Your on the right track learn as much as you can prior to the meeting good luck and please keep us up to date

 

[gubbins]

Your on the right track learn as much as you can prior to the meeting good luck and please keep us up to date

Thanks Jay I absolutely intend to.

It makes my blood boil (and i'm sure many on here feel the same as you all get tarnished as a result) that we all have the same easy access to the internet and a fantastic wealth of experience and knowledge on it such as on forums like this, yet a tiler (an possibly other trades) having working for so many years in his profession doesn't feel the need to keep up to date regarding practices and products, nor follow accepted guidelines.

In my own job if we didnt carry out continual professional development to a recognised standard we would no longer be registered to be able to work in that field yet some long serving tradesmen remain so blasé with other peoples property and money.

Getting them all to turn up to the meeting will be like knitting mercury, but i'll do my upmost. Im off to speak to some UFH specialists.

All the best

Gubbins

 

[Ajax123]

There is quite a wealth of ino on the gyvlon.co.uk web site. If you need more info or help directly from gyvlon i am happy for you to ring me at work on 07545 932723. it is my supicion that you will be fighting rear guard all the way with this as no one will want to take responsibility. In reality and in my experience there is likely to be a combination of issues rather than one single underlying cause.

The thing that often gets the blame is the gyvlon itself as if it has some sort of grudge against people sticking tiles down to it, which always makes me chuckle.

Tiles fail because things have been done incorrectly, someone has made mistakes. Defining what those mistakes actually are can be incredibly difficult as everyone goes on the defensive and getting all parties to actually agree on the cause or causes is the most difficult bit of all.

You are welcome to ring me should the need arise.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

As Alan says could be a Combination of bad practice, the PVA , maybe not enough expansion joints, not commissioning the floor, no decoupling membrane, its even possible the tiles have been dot and dabbed as you thought there might be air pockets ( voids ) in the adhesive.

I notice you asked about governing bodies, the TTA is a trade association. They do reports that stand up in court, but the report would cost in excess of £800.00. costly,but would lay the blame on the guilty party/parties

I really hope you get a good result, stories like this don't sit well with the members of TF. Good luck.

 

[gubbins]

Things are progressing slowly but in the direction of a resolution. Want to say a huge thanks to Ajax and Philhobson for their expert advice on and off the forum. Hats off to you two. Phil you have PM.