Tiling adhesive. Which is best?

[Jrterror]

Hi.
Just a quick question.
Which is best for tiling, ready mixed adhesive or powder?
I have ensuite walls to tile and within is a shower enclosure I presume you can buy a water proof adhesive.
Also, should I be buying some thing to water proof the area below the shower. If so, any suggestions. Don't wanna spend a fortune.
Ta

 

[Dumbo]

It cost's what it coat's. Yes you should waterproof the wet area and if you do that you should be using a powdered adhesive .

 

[peteablard]

Walls should be tanked, if it's a walk in shower or wet room then the floor should be too

 

[Dougs Third Go]

powdered flexible adhesive everytime, in any situation, over a ready mixed adhesive

 

[One Day]

There is no such thing as waterproof adhesive (despite claims from manufacturers) so waterproof the substrate.

 

[Jrterror]

Hi. I removed the existing tiles, then adhesive and finally any paint that the walls were 'primed' with.
How do I tank the area?
What do I use?
Is it the same the the floors?
Sorry, complete novice

Ta

 

[GoneGuy]

To tank around the shower area it would be easiest to buy a tanking kit such as Mapei shower kit from your local screwfix and use that.
Powder adhesive over tub adhesive every time.

 

[Jrterror]

Do you tank down to the floor or fit the tray and tank down to the tray.

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

Waterproof cement adhesives I think are very badly described - the non-trade/pro will assume it means that water will not pass through it rather than it has sufficient bonding strength when saturated. If my coat did the same I wouldnt be overly happy.

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

Jrterror. Walls and floors should be tanked, taped on joints etc. This may help you and then likely more questions.

I am a DIY person - I have fitted wet rooms (not for trade) succesfully but I was slow (eachtime), had to remedy problems (each time) and asked a lot of advice.

 

[Paddington]

Powdered adhesive every time, less water content than premix. Tank the area using a tanking kit - tile master do a really good one for about £60.00, includes primer, corner pieces, tape, paste. Do 2 coats with the paste, one vertical one horizontal, if I’m doing a walk in I do the floor as well, and place tape and corner pieces under the tray as well as above. Trade mate pro rapid is my preferred adhesive, dunno why, just seems to work with my tiling times in the bucket. Personally I avoid anything maipei, just think it’s inferior and stupidly expensive. We all have our little quirks. Oh if you do the floor under the shower tray, make sure you don’t just do that area (a larger area than tray is better).

 

[Jrterror]

Great advice everyone. Ta

Just a quick thought. When tiling, any adhesive that may squeeze out between the tiles, do you take it out back to the wall, or just inline the rear of the tile?
Sorry, may sound a daft question. Just wanna do everything right the first time.
Ta again

 

[Old Mod]

Just a quick thought.

Have you ever had one?

Just take it back enough to allow joint to accept grout and so that it doesn’t protrude through the grout.
Technically, transitions (wall to wall & wall to floor joints) should be adhesive free to allow movement in the substrate from impacting on the adjoining Tiling, but that doesn’t mean you need to be super anal about it.
All transitions should have a silicone joint and not grout, that way each substrate remains independent of each other.
Tubbed adhesive dries by the way of dispersion, basically the moisture in the adhesive evaporates, this will be hindered in a tanked area and if the tiles are too big.
Powdered adhesives dry due to a chemical reaction, so it will dry regardless.
This is one of the reasons why we use powdered adhesives.

 

[Jrterror]

Brilliant 3 fall. Ta
And no! I never have quick thoughts. Ha