Need Help Levelling For A Tray In A Wetroom

[ageless]

I took on my own large bathroom upstairs in my new build. Its 2,5x3.5m room and have tiled all walls and floor and ready to tile my wet room tray but I'm out in 1 corner about 12mm. If this was anywhere else in the room I could fill out with tile adhesive and it would never be seen but this wet room adhesive is a bit tacky and I'm afraid I'll make a balls of the mosaic tiles because of the thick adhesive.

Ripping it all out and re-levelung tge teay isn't an option because of costs and time. I'm wondering how thick I can use this wet room adhesive before I run into problems. I'm now going to use larger tiles which will help me out of this bad situation I'm in.

Has anyone else can any recommendations that could help as I'm badly in need of it

 

[Dan]

Double tile it?

I'm struggling to picture the situation. But I get that you need to pack out the tiling.

With most adhesive you can tile over tile, so in theory you can tile a layer using off-cuts, then tile over that again with the actual finish...... I think?

 

[White Room]

Not if your using mosaic, you could build up the addy but it would have set before attempting any fixing of the mosaic...if you see what I mean.

 

[Old Mod]

Not knowing specifics it's hard to give a definitive answer, but what about some latex, re-tank and tile?

 

[Dan]

Ahhh mosaics, missed that.

Think plasterboard do the job then? Use adhesive to stick that to the wall first, then tile over that...?

 

[Dan]

We need pictures. lol

 

[White Room]

It's to the shower floor Dan...

 

[Dan]

PMSL.

I need to go back school and learn to read. I think I've been online too much today. Time for the pub!

 

[J Sid]

What make is this 'wetroom adhesive'?

 

[ageless]

Tganks for the swift replies folks. With abit of luck, you will help get me out of this mess

Bottom left corner is off level. Room is already tiled apart from wet area but no pic yet, sorry.

I need the wet tray tiles to meet the level if tiles already on floor. If I build this corner up with the tacky wet tray adhesive, the mosaics won't sit right so I'm going to get larger tiles and cut the slopes. What really worries me is the tray adhesive, its like a tacky sealent silicone type adgesive when used and I'm worried if I use this to build up under tile, it will mess things up. Is it possible to use flexi adhesive on a tray or am I in rubbish creek!

 

[ageless]

What make is this 'wetroom adhesive'?

Mega

 

[White Room]

Has the bottom tile been fixed yet down to the tray....

 

[ageless]

Has the bottom tile been fixed yet down to the tray....

No, going to do that after I tile the tray and floor.

 

[ageless]

Double tile it?

I'm struggling to picture the situation. But I get that you need to pack out the tiling.

With most adhesive you can tile over tile, so in theory you can tile a layer using off-cuts, then tile over that again with the actual finish...... I think?

So your saying I can fill small gaps with some small cut tiles and make sure its all covered in adhesive. This adhesive is like a rubber mastic when setting going by the small amount of it I have mixed up beside me.

Can one use cement based flexi adhesive on top of wet trays

 

[White Room]

I'd use an S1 rapid adhesive to build up where it's 12mm lower, but (not teaching you to suck eggs) make sure it's flat and no bulges and dips because your'll struggle to get the mosaic built up with to much wet addy.

 

[Old Mod]

Whose tray is that?
Why can't u latex that corner to level and re tank?

 

[ageless]

I'd use an S1 rapid adhesive to build up where it's 12mm lower, but (not teaching you to suck eggs) make sure it's flat and no bulges and dips because your'll struggle to get the mosaic built up with to much wet addy.

Thank you for your reply. I'm not using mosaic no more, going to buy large tiles or use same 300x300 tiles already down on floor because it'll be less messing about. Tried some mosaic earlier but to much messing for someone like me. If tray was completely level I'd have no problems but like this, I'll make a mess so decided to use large tiles instead.

When you s1 rapid adhesive and can it be laid on a wet tray without causing problems

 

[ageless]

Whose tray is that?
Why can't u latex that corner to level and re tank?

I'm not a pro tiler so never used latex? Can you tell me what it is and how to use it. Does it take long to set?

 

[Dan]

I don't know what thread I was reading but in my head it was totally different to that! Makes sense now.

I'd double tile it if you're not going with mosaics. Wont do any harm. Double tile to where you need to, then feather adhesive from the first layer of tile to the trap. Then wait for that to cure/dry, then tile it properly all level.

 

[White Room]

Thank you for your reply. I'm not using mosaic no more, going to buy large tiles or use same 300x300 tiles already down on floor because it'll be less messing about. Tried some mosaic earlier but to much messing for someone like me. If tray was completely level I'd have no problems but like this, I'll make a mess so decided to use large tiles instead.

When you s1 rapid adhesive and can it be laid on a wet tray without causing problems

It can be laid onto dry tanking in a wet room tray.

 

[White Room]

As said above if your laying large tiles...

 

[Dan]

Just a note to say I've changed the thread title to something more suited to the actual problem so that others can spot it to help or read the advice given for their own situation.

 

[J Sid]

This Mega adhesive, does it come in a tube?

 

[ageless]

I don't know what thread I was reading but in my head it was totally different to that! Makes sense now.

I'd double tile it if you're not going with mosaics. Wont do any harm. Double tile to where you need to, then feather adhesive from the first layer of tile to the trap. Then wait for that to cure/dry, then tile it properly all level.

What I have in mmindwill take me over the drain if I use tiles underneath.

 

[Dan]

You'd only need the one tile in the corner that's low, then use the adhesive to feather / skim from that one tile to the trap (to below the trap rather) and then tile it? Does that make any sense? So you're just using a tile as a packer to pack out the adhesive.... sort of thing.

 

[ageless]

It can be laid onto dry tanking in a wet room tray.

This tray is sealed in megaseal tanking but now has some mega adhesive on it now due to trying earlier. Couldn't get the Addy of because it was so tacky. can this s1rapid set be used on top of wet tray adhesive. I'm liking the sound of being able to use rapid set adhesive on tanking because its easier to play with and to clean of tools as well. I had to use acetone earlier to clean my tools with that horrible stuff.

 

[ageless]

It can be laid onto dry tanking in a wet room tray.

What about c2 flexible adhesive, I've one bag left. Can that be used?

 

[White Room]

This tray is sealed in megaseal tanking but now has some mega adhesive on it now due to trying earlier. Couldn't get the Addy of because it was so tacky. can this s1rapid set be used on top of wet tray adhesive. I'm liking the sound of being able to use rapid set adhesive on tanking because its easier to play with and to clean of tools as well. I had to use acetone earlier to clean my tools with that horrible stuff.

I would not fix to wet tanking as you may break the seal and could end up in a awful mess.

 

[ageless]

This Mega adhesive, does it come in a tube?

No it came in a small bucket and had to add a bottle of hardner then mix. Smelt very strong, like evostik adhesive if you know the stuff.

 

[ageless]

I would not fix to wet tanking as you may break the seal and could end up in a awful mess.

Do you mean wet tray adhesive?