Lazer levels looking to retire the spirit level :)

[Steve Griffiths]

I have read through a load of old posts on the same subject so sorry to drag it up again but I have recently bought a dewalt https://www.NoLinksToThis/p/dewalt-dw088k-self-levelling-line-laser/38474
and I was surprised how wide the line is and not that fussed on the red laszer, I had expected the beam to be a more thin and precice line?
I have spotted this Bosch version too with a green lazer https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-0603..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z2EH4NY32BM065KXWMYR
abd wondered if anyone has any experience of them?

There seems to be a big step up in price from these to the models I have seen some of you guys recommend and I am very interested what the difference would be in jumping up to double or even quadruple the cost, are they really night and day better?

Cheers

 

[Old Mod]

That’s a green colour Steve, not laser beam.
You can’t buy a green laser for that money, they’re reassuringly expensive, even the cheap ones.

The most popular seems to be the Dewalt 089g 3 bean green laser, superb piece of kit, a true ons stop laser.

 

[Waluigi]

You’ll never retire the spirit level in my opinion.

That said, I’ve not used a laser that’s any more than a couple of hundred.

As you’ve already mentioned, the laser line is too thick. Maybe I should look into a better laser. I don’t think I need to yet.

 

[hmtiling]

If you're going to buy one, get a good one. I haven’t set out without one for years. The levels are now mostly straight edges.

 

[Steve Griffiths]

That’s a green colour Steve, not laser beam.
You can’t buy a green laser for that money, they’re reassuringly expensive, even the cheap ones.

The most popular seems to be the Dewalt 089g 3 bean green laser, superb piece of kit, a true ons stop laser.

How thin would the line be on a dewalt like that?

 

[Waluigi]

How much are we talking for a good laser level gents.

And if anyone has a link for the OP that would be useful. I did have a quick search but there’s many similar lasers with slight variations in the ending digits

 

[hmtiling]

DeWalt DCE089D1G-GB 10.8v 2.0Ah Li-Ion Self Level Multi Line Laser Green - https://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Dewalt-Dce089D1G-Gb-5035048489611-10.8V-2.0Ah-Li-Ion-Self-Level-Multi-Line-Laser-Green
I've got this. As has Marc. Excellent bit of kit.

 

[Waluigi]

Thanks, that’s what confused me, the one on the Screwfix website has slightly different digits at the end:-

https://www.NoLinksToThis/p/dewalt-...er/9819k#product_additional_details_container

 

[Steve Griffiths]

DeWalt DCE089D1G-GB 10.8v 2.0Ah Li-Ion Self Level Multi Line Laser Green - https://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Dewalt-Dce089D1G-Gb-5035048489611-10.8V-2.0Ah-Li-Ion-Self-Level-Multi-Line-Laser-Green
I've got this. As has Marc. Excellent bit of kit.

Only thing with that is I have gone all Makita for battery and charger simplicity, how thick would you say the line was on a wall etc and does it keep a consistant thickness over distance?
I was hoping to find something that accepts AA etc batteries

 

[Flintstone]

I also have the green DeWalt laser above and it totally changed my tiling life. I've achieved things I would never acheive with just spirit levels. For a professional tiler with many years of work, I always try and invest in the best I can. The cheap lasers aren't accurate enough either.
Using the laser this week I have been preparing a floor for underfloor heating and it was terrible, as much as 35mm out of level across a large room of over 30sqm. I've got the floor level to within 2mm. You can't do that with a spirit level

 

[Flintstone]

The red DeWalt you have purchased is accurate to .3mm over a meter, so over a room of 8m you could be out by 2.5mm

 

[Italy]

the thinnest green I've seen is the bosch gll3 80 green.
3 visibility settings.
this is the difference between the bosch with the second light setting
and one stabila, distant 50cm from the wall

 

[Bill]

The red DeWalt you have purchased is accurate to .3mm over a meter, so over a room of 8m you could be out by 2.5mm

What if you start from the middle? Then you possibly may be out by 1.25mm ........

 

[WetSaw]

The red DeWalt you have purchased is accurate to .3mm over a meter, so over a room of 8m you could be out by 2.5mm

I'd be ecstatic if I was only out 2.5mm over 8m!

 

[Steve Griffiths]

I also have the green DeWalt laser above and it totally changed my tiling life. I've achieved things I would never acheive with just spirit levels. For a professional tiler with many years of work, I always try and invest in the best I can. The cheap lasers aren't accurate enough either.
Using the laser this week I have been preparing a floor for underfloor heating and it was terrible, as much as 35mm out of level across a large room of over 30sqm. I've got the floor level to within 2mm. You can't do that with a spirit level

Did you use the reciever and a staff to do that?

 

[Waluigi]

The red DeWalt you have purchased is accurate to .3mm over a meter, so over a room of 8m you could be out by 2.5mm

Pretty much similar to spirit levels.

I’m basing this on an average Bathroom (the only tiling I do) being about 8 linear metres on the horizontal plane and being about 1 to 3mm out if I draw a level line around the room.

Anyway, great advise on the Dewalt Gents. Looks like I might need to go shopping. Any places that sell it over the counter?

 

[Steve Griffiths]

The red DeWalt you have purchased is accurate to .3mm over a meter, so over a room of 8m you could be out by 2.5mm

Been using it some more today and like a lot of things it takes time to get used to a new tool.
One of the things that frustrated me at first was the tripod wouldn't go low enough to get the first row of cut tiles set, but I took the level of the tripod and set it with boxes of tiles and am much happier now, yes the beam is a bit wider than I expected, but I have got used to catching the bottom edge of the line, also it makes reading the tape much easier as it illuminates the measurement.

I can see the benefit for the more expensive levels that throw lines fore and aft for setting out a room square, quicker and green lines being easier to see, but I think this will do me afterall, just need a more suitable tripod.

 

[Steve Griffiths]

Pretty much similar to spirit levels.

I’m basing this on an average Bathroom (the only tiling I do) being about 8 linear metres on the horizontal plane and being about 1 to 3mm out if I draw a level line around the room.

Anyway, great advise on the Dewalt Gents. Looks like I might need to go shopping. Any places that sell it over the counter?

The one I got was from Screwfix as they had it in stock on a Sunday!

 

[Steve Griffiths]

the thinnest green I've seen is the bosch gll3 80 green.
3 visibility settings.
this is the difference between the bosch with the second light setting
and one stabila, distant 50cm from the wall

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I do like the middle of the three lines, looks very clear.

 

[hmtiling]

Pretty much similar to spirit levels.

I’m basing this on an average Bathroom (the only tiling I do) being about 8 linear metres on the horizontal plane and being about 1 to 3mm out if I draw a level line around the room.

Anyway, great advise on the Dewalt Gents. Looks like I might need to go shopping. Any places that sell it over the counter?

https://www.NoLinksToThis/p/dewalt-...er/9819k#product_additional_details_container

 

[Flintstone]

Is the laser not magnetic? Sticking it on a corner bead is usually a good place

 

[Steve Griffiths]

Is the laser not magnetic? Sticking it on a corner bead is usually a good place

Three internal corners and a doorway

 

[Dumbo]

Put a screw in the wall . Hang a panel saw off it and stick the laser level to the saw .

 

[Albert]

DeWalt DCE089D1G-GB 10.8v 2.0Ah Li-Ion Self Level Multi Line Laser Green - https://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Dewalt-Dce089D1G-Gb-5035048489611-10.8V-2.0Ah-Li-Ion-Self-Level-Multi-Line-Laser-Green
I've got this. As has Marc. Excellent bit of kit.

I have one also

 

[Waluigi]

Put a screw in the wall . Hang a panel saw off it and stick the laser level to the saw .

Mind blown