Job Of The Month Comp is BACK!!! WOOOOOOO

[Dan]

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[Dan]

forgot to add description and could see a edit button

I was just thinking about this. We need to perhaps have a short edit time so people don't change their photos etc during voting.

Stone Kitchen Floor - http://www.tilersforums.com/photo-contest-entries/stone-kitchen-floor.4/

I've added one for you lol

Given the fact it's a test competition, it doesn't matter too much. Let me know if you want me to delete your entry and you have another bash mate.

 

[Old Mod]

but don't miss the deadline!
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To be honest, with the date thing, I'm more relaxed than some staff about it.

I haven't stipulated in the terms (so far) to include a photo of a newspaper or your watch or whatever showing the date. I'd like to think we can allow as many people to enter as possible and not risk losing an entry just because somebody couldn't get back to the job with a newspaper to take a photo when it had the bath put in etc etc

So that's up for debate perhaps.

You mean me! Haha

The problem I see, is the reason why it didn't take off again last time, it lost its meaning because it was just guys entering with an image, as and when and if they could be bothered. No explanation, no before during or after images or information.
And for a percentage of members, they saw the competition not being given enough respect, it's great having lots of entries, yes.
But not at the expense of the competition or tag.
But that's just my opinion

 

[Dan]

You mean me! Haha

The problem I see, is the reason why it didn't take off again last time, it lost its meaning because it was just guys entering with an image, as and when and if they could be bothered. No explanation, no before during or after images or information.
And for a percentage of members, they saw the competition not being given enough respect, it's great having lots of entries, yes.
But not at the expense of the competition or tag.
But that's just my opinion

No lol to be honest I've been the one that always said the date stamp thing just discouraged entries, was Dave's original gig and his idea. It's all the staff but me lol

I totally agree with more photos the better though. That's not what I'm disagreeing with. I love the before and after shots. And have enabled up to 15 images to be added for that reason. But I wouldn't say it's a requirement. It'd just get you more votes if you can explain it well and show the before during and after. Like you say.

 

[Old Mod]

Not a requirement no, ok badly worded maybe, but I was rushing cos I wanted my dinner. Haha
My point is, last time it run, entries were consisting of just a single image, even when entrants were pm'd and asked to upload an album, it was ignored.
No effort was made other than a single image.
That dragged the meaning of the whole JOTM concept down, and regular members considered this as detrimental, and not only to the competition, but to the tag also.
If it starts to mean nothing, then all of this will be wasted effort on everyone's part.
So if we want sponsors to chip in too, then I feel it should be something that's not given easily, that's how it became so coveted in the first place.
And it's not difficult to prove date and time really is it, even a bloody screen shot of your phone is better than nothing.
I'm not trying to put up obstacles, in fact I've tried to get it off the ground a couple of times, but the regular or long standing members are the ones we need to encourage to enter.
Not someone who signs up, posts an image and is never seen again.
It makes a mockery.
I know I'm being extreme in my scenarios, but I'm tired and I'm just trying to get my point over.

 

[Dan]

When we ran it before we had people uploading 30 or so sometimes. It was only that silly system that made people upload one image because that's all it allowed in the actual album.

I doubt we will have just 1 image per entry this time round mate dont worry. The less rules the better though for now.

Something i would like to know everybody's opinion on is whether we keep entries private until voting opens.

I can hide submissions until voting day.

Sometimes we used to have an awesome job uploaded first and nobody wanted to go ahead with them so would shy away.

Maybe we hide entries this time round!?

 

[Old Mod]

Hiding entries may work well.
It's more about just getting members to have confidence with posting images.
That's where the forum could improve, as a whole.

 

[Dan]

In forum terms we have a good rate of photos being added to threads and the album area.

Most don't really have that going on.

But I'd always love see more.

The comp will help a bit i guess. Improvements to the albums would help too.

 

[Flintstone]

I can't find how you comment on an entry or view all the photo ?

 

[Flintstone]

I've found it, you have to click on the name of the entry rather than the Main image, bit confusing

 

[Old Mod]

I've found it, you have to click on the name of the entry rather than the Main image, bit confusing

You don't be disappointed if it wasn't! Haha

 

[Flintstone]

I assumed clicking the cover photo would open the right page!

 

[Dan]

You could do with visiting the forum on a PC. The website isn't an app with a couple of options. It's a fully blown website with blogs and a directory and a million posts and whatnot.

It's designed for PC's and then trimmed down for tablets, and trimmed down again for mobile devices.

It's not physically designed for mobiles.

 

[Dan]

Okay so now voting is open. So we can test that too now.

Note that during a real comp the voting wouldn't start until all entries are in.

But to vote you click a thumbs up on the contest home page after viewing all entries.

 

[J Sid]

ok , can get that page up but how done I vote

 

[Flintstone]

The thing is dan, 99 percent of people will visit on a mobile or tablet so it's got to suit those devices well

 

[Dan]

The thing is dan, 99 percent of people will visit on a mobile or tablet so it's got to suit those devices well

I have the stats mate that's not the case. You're assuming you know it all again. It's nearer 35%

 

[Dan]

ok , can get that page up but how done I vote

Click the thumbs up that you can see in the picture mate.

 

[Flintstone]

I have the stats mate that's not the case. You're assuming you know it all again. It's nearer 35%

I am very supprised at that!

 

[J Sid]

Click the thumbs up that you can see in the picture mate.

thanks Dan, was concerned I maybe upsetting someone as it turned to a thumbs down

 

[Dan]

I am very supprised at that!

What, being corrected lol

That's about right for a website that gets 95% of its traffic from a search engine.

We aren't an app.

We are a website. Mostly a forum, but not just a forum these days.

We would need several apps (think Facebook) to serve all users with all features.

So don't expect basic buttons like an app when you visit our website.

 

[Dan]

thanks Dan, was concerned I maybe upsetting someone as it turned to a thumbs down

You can change your vote as the settings are. If i enable no changes you wouldn't see that. But for now, i want people to be able to i think.

 

[Ttt1601]

i really like the sound of this and think that hiding the entries until voting starts would help get more entries, but i do feel that some on the site will be slightly helped over all by the area the area thry live in and how that corresponds to standard/type of work they get in, now i just using this as an example, but lets say there is bathroom done in 300 x 600 porcelains, but with some creative solutions to wall prep or boxing, lay out or some other feature that took serious thinking and hard work comes up against (sorry marc not aimed at you mate) a bookmatch that was prepped well by someone else and was just walked in and tiled, now in pictures one will look like a better class of room regardless of the actual effort and time and skill in varying areas that went into the rooms. i can guess which will probably win if alot of guys who dont prep or are newer to the industry and dont understand the difference in overall technical skill between the different jobs are posting most votes. i have just used this as and example and i know bookmatch is an immense skill and am not meaning to offend anyone with this i hope you can see what im trying to say in that i think would be unfair if the material used starts taking prefference over the skill set involved in the job

 

[Dan]

i really like the sound of this and think that hiding the entries until voting starts would help get more entries, but i do feel that some on the site will be slightly helped over all by the area the area thry live in and how that corresponds to standard/type of work they get in, now i just using this as an example, but lets say there is bathroom done in 300 x 600 porcelains, but with some creative solutions to wall prep or boxing, lay out or some other feature that took serious thinking and hard work comes up against (sorry marc not aimed at you mate) a bookmatch that was prepped well by someone else and was just walked in and tiled, now in pictures one will look like a better class of room regardless of the actual effort and time and skill in varying areas that went into the rooms. i can guess which will probably win if alot of guys who dont prep or are newer to the industry and dont understand the difference in overall technical skill between the different jobs are posting most votes. i have just used this as and example and i know bookmatch is an immense skill and am not meaning to offend anyone with this i hope you can see what im trying to say in that i think would be unfair if the material used starts taking prefference over the skill set involved in the job

That's job and month-specific. And fair game to all (everybody can have both kind of jobs equally so fair game IMO).

That's not something we can fix without having competition categories. So not a problem for now. Maybe one day we will have enough entries to section them off.

The way to go about it though is to show your workings in your pictures and explain in your description how it was tiled.

That way, somebody walking in on flat walls with flat tiles and good cutter who has no issues but it cost 100,000 has the same chance as a guy who does a splashback but it was the job from hell and it still ended up awesome.

It's the members that vote, so they'll see the pros and cons with both. They're all tilers too.

 

[Ttt1601]

is it just the pro tilers that can vote on then dan?

 

[Dan]

is it just the pro tilers that can vote on then dan?

All forum members can vote.

The fact somebody isn't in the TilersForums Arms and doesn't have a red username doesn't mean they're not a tiler.

But everybody has all the same members posting, so it's all fair.

 

[Ttt1601]

and i wasnt being down the competion Dan sorry if it came across as negitive it wasnt meant to, as i say i really like the idea, and have seen the guys with the badge against their name and read a few threads on it and was gutted i wasnt on here first time round, bring it on lol

 

[Dan]

Entry for April comp is open guys!!!

Get thinking about your jobs this month to see which one might be worth entering.

Big thanks to uheat who are joining in this and giving a goodie box to the winner.

 

[Qwerty]

I'm chucking in an entry this month...... a bathroom I have just completed with dreaded British Ceramic Tiles!!!! Come on people, it can't get much worse than that!

 

[Dan]

Haha ace the transformation must be good then going from not square to square tiles