here you go.. lets hear it lol...

[ian158]

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Yes Mr T always wear your PPE


No humble pie necessary Ian. An apology where its due, done. As for the other 99% of my post I stand by it. Yes practice makes perfect blah blah blah. Should he be "practising" at the expense of someones home and hard earned cash? Absolutely not!
Is the work done here up to an acceptable standard for a customer to pay for it. Absolutely not. Would you be happy to pay for it Ian if this was your home?? I don't think suggesting its a council property makes it better, does it?

Bare in mind if you re-read my original post I asked Mr T to take it as constructive criticism. I hope ha does, because as i also said i admire his enthusiasm. Call it firm but fair if you will. Not going to blow smoke up his (¥)

As far as i can tell he has done work for friends and family..if they are happy with it and pay him any money..its none of our business..going out there and selling himself to unknowns is a different story..but from what I see he's not quite confident yet..his next job is his own bathroom..this is how i learnt..the hard way doing my own houses up..family and friends..taking my time..only doing small jobs for other clients i was confident with..and aged 48 I still will turn work away I'm not confident at..I admit that to the customer and they thank me for it rather than having a go and ruining it...Back then I never had a forum to look at for help..but wouldn't this site be boring if all we did was look at pros work and big each other up..its nice to help others when you remember the obstacles you came up against..constructive criticism is a good thing..but helping others is much more satisfying...

 

[AliGage]

Pretty sure Mr T commented on this being for a builder friend. Who was happy to let him tile a customers bathroom. Can't be bothered going back over 10 pages to check to be honest. Ash can soon tell us.
Ash has also had an abundance of help so far from this forum. Lots on here has encouraged him to do right and do well. Constructive criticism is still help i believe. In fact id say its more helpful than not pointing out the errors, is it not?

 

[DHTiling]

Pretty sure Mr T commented on this being for a builder friend. Who was happy to let him tile a customers bathroom. Can't be bothered going back over 10 pages to check to be honest. Ash can soon tell us.
Ash has also had an abundance of help so far from this forum. Lots on here has encouraged him to do right and do well. Constructive criticism is still help i believe. In fact id say its more helpful than not pointing out the errors, is it not?

>>> http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/68890-here-you-go-lets-hear-lol.html#post698897

 

[bugs183]

If you do a bad cut Mr T, don't be scared to throw it away/reuse it. No need to put it in. Better to be a box of tiles short when you're learning than have terrible cuts everywhere.

This is probably the best bit of advise i reckon a new tiler can get!
I was taught by my dad and he always part of being a good tiler and doing a good job is knowing that you will have to spend some time taking down a wall or floor if you are not happy with it, and re fixing it, all part of the job.
Also if you look at a cut and ask yourself is this good enough, you've answered your own question! If it was right you wouldn't have thought it.

 

[AliGage]

>>> http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/68890-here-you-go-lets-hear-lol.html#post698897

So i presume the cousin is being paid for doing up these houses. So the "guy" is a customer.
So the question still remains if Ian would pay for this work?

 

[Mr Tiler]

no apology due ali I was just proving im not a liar lol but cheers. I can understand why some of ya think im cutting corners but when I look at the job I say what im going to do in my head and I make sure I do it. basically the story to this bathroom is my cousin does up property for a man that buys them. hes a bit of an all rounder accept for the plumbing and electrics and hes very good at it. my whole family knows what im trying to do and he let me have a go on this on (with the owners knowledge) and both were happy with the result in the end and they could see how hard I tried lol. setting out wise I will from now on dedicate at least a couple of hours until im satisfied the outcome will be the best option. and tbh there was the odd cut I questioned and in future deffinately will pull off the wall and re-do. I think the trowel size is 12mm round notch. I only have one floor trowel and basically spread the addy underneath to fill any voids that may be created under the harfdi is that correct? and the floor was pretty level just had to adjust height a little as I was tiling. I can take all the criticism I really can and it will help me think twice when im doing the next bit of tiling its just when it gets a bit nasty I don't see any need for it (not aimed at anyone). just want to do the best and in a couple of years mite even get jotm lol. cheers

 

[Mr Tiler]

yes ali once the house is sold my cousin gets a cut.

 

[Qwerty]

just want to do the best and in a couple of years mite even get jotm lol

With your enthusiasm, the right direction and experience I see no reason at all why you can't achieve this goal.

I achieved JOTM with what I considered to be little experience when compared to some folk here.
Be patient, think twice, ask advice (I know you already do!), take the advice on board, know your limitations and with time & experience I'm sure it will come.

Rome wasn't built in a day (not by a professional anyway!)

All the very best Ash

 

[Mr Tiler]

The man / woman who never made a mistake, never made anything, (apart from me):sofahide: :lol:

I actually liked what phill said plan tek lol. cheers

 

[AliGage]

Ash you seem like a good lad. At no point have i tried to discourage you from what you want to do. Infact the opposite. I just hope you are listening and taking it on board. There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum but there is more to being a professional than just knowing how to do it.

If you're serious. Really serious i may have a job coming up in the next couple of months that i need a pair of hands on. I delivered a price this morning and im fairly confident ill get a call to go ahead. If i do how do you fancy a week giving me a hand? I know its a bit of a trek for you but we could sort something out i reckon. Interested?

 

[bugs183]

you can't knock that for an offer matey

 

[Qwerty]

Very good of you Ali!

 

[AliGage]

I've got to land the job first. But its a 40sqm failed floor. Some of the TAs will know what one im on about.
But experience wise you'll see what poor prep can do, why its done it. Prep to get the substrate right, methods to ensure it won't fail again and the setting out of the stone to allow for there areas as well.

 

[ian158]

So i presume the cousin is being paid for doing up these houses. So the "guy" is a customer.
So the question still remains if Ian would pay for this work?

I would have done it myself or got a pro in..but looking at the plumbing, if this guys is happy with that !...then he's easily pleased..

 

[ian158]

Ash you seem like a good lad. At no point have i tried to discourage you from what you want to do. Infact the opposite. I just hope you are listening and taking it on board. There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum but there is more to being a professional than just knowing how to do it.

If you're serious. Really serious i may have a job coming up in the next couple of months that i need a pair of hands on. I delivered a price this morning and im fairly confident ill get a call to go ahead. If i do how do you fancy a week giving me a hand? I know its a bit of a trek for you but we could sort something out i reckon. Interested?

ill help you for free !...I'm still learning

 

[Mr Tiler]

ali that is a brilliant offer mate but im struggling to get about in the car and keeping it running as it is as it is never mind driving for 3 hours a day lol. it really is a shame you don't live closer mate I would jump at the chance to do some more tiling with a pro I really would. but I just wouldn't be able to afford it mate. I know theres loads to learn other than the how to but im still learning how to never mind the rest of it lol. If I was to walk into a customers house they would know I wasn't a tradesman anyway as I wouldn't know where to start with pricing up lol. great opportunity its a shame I cant take the offer mate it really is and now im goin to be depressed all day haha! cheers mate

 

[Mr Tiler]

and seems like I replied too late! ian!:incazzato: lol

 

[ian158]

tell you what.. if your that serious... ill put you up for a week..i only live 5 miles from peterborough..we can both go and learn..mix the addy and tidy up..all for free...

 

[Mr Tiler]

that sounds even better lol! but tbh I don't mind doin any amount of work for nothing and il clean the vaan as a thank you... but im also a family man and my missus needs me here also. I love tiling but I also love my relationship with my women lol. I hope that doesn't make me sound ungrateful cuzi really am it would be a great opportunity it really would.

 

[ian158]

that sounds even better lol! but tbh I don't mind doin any amount of work for nothing and il clean the vaan as a thank you... but im also a family man and my missus needs me here also. I love tiling but I also love my relationship with my women lol. I hope that doesn't make me sound ungrateful cuzi really am it would be a great opportunity it really would.

she also must understand you need to work..for the future...1 week is nothing from your life...give it 3 years and you will be itching to lose yourself for a week

 

[Mr Tiler]

lol yeh... but would you really be willing to put me up for a week?

 

[ian158]

ive got 3 floors..kids all over the place..you'd have to kip downstairs in the conservatory..next to the bar ! in a small village..no pub.

 

[Mr Tiler]

next to the bar would suite me better than a hotel suite lol!

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

Anyway just read this thread , and good-luck to you Mr T keep reading keep trying and if they will pay -you take the money! as that is why we are all doing this stuff in the first place , when you first came on the forum i thought you were (having a Laugh ) and was a plumber ,but Neal PM'd me the other night and said you were a good lad & existed !! so good luck to you lad ......

 

[Mr Tiler]

dpf I do exist (at least I hope) lol and cheers mate I just want to do it the rite way that's why im on here askin and getting the advice as I don't want to be charging for unacceptable standards of work. just want to eventually be successful lol. chees matey

 

[Mr Tiler]

im off to town as I brought the daughter a wii game this morning and got home with no disk in the case! now that's an unacceptable standard! lol

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

"Rome wasn't built in a day", but we were not on that job.:lol:

 

[Gazzer]

"Rome wasn't built in a day", but we were not on that job.:lol:

There you go again Phil, Boasting about previous jobs :lol:

 

[Dan]

Just bumping some of the older popular (sometimes not so popular) threads. Probably wont be current discussion these days but I just need to do it. So just ignore the thread if it's not current for you.