Dural V Ditra Prices

[Dan]

What's 20sqm of both of the above costing at trade these days guys? And where's best to get it from?

 

[widler]

Not sure Dan, think about £8m2 ,I use the tile master matting on the odd occasion I use it, think that's about £5m2

 

[padtheplumber]

I paid just under £7 sqm from Tradetiler for Durabase a couple of weeks ago

 

[J Sid]

Think I pay just over £6 m2 for Ditra from CTD.
You couldn't pay me to use Dural.
As for the likes of Tilemaster and bal rapid matting , I've still to be convinced, plus they are expensive for what they are and can do.

 

[Dan]

Why don't you like Dural?

 

[padtheplumber]

You couldn't pay me to use Dural.

Is Ditra that much better Julian - I've not used it yet?

 

[J Sid]

Why don't you like Dural?

Because of the failures they had a few years back. I had one on a 100 m2 floor.

 

[padtheplumber]

Ouch. Not suprised you wouldn't touch it with a bargepole then!!

 

[J Sid]

Is Ditra that much better Julian - I've not used it yet?

I believe so, better back up, alot easier to fix, not as stiff.
I am sure dural is a good company, but sometimes you have to go with your feelings about a product .
I sure that's why so many of the lads like tilemaster products, they are no better than many other manufacturers but they feel it is.
You not tried Ditra?

 

[White Room]

Tilmaster products if you can get them...

 

[padtheplumber]

You not tried Ditra?

Not yet, I don't do much that requires decoupling tbh, and when I have Dural always seems to be on sale where I'm buying other materials from. I've used Kerdi which I liked, so I'll give it a go next time.

 

[Dan]

I think I remember those dural issues. Wasn't the matting splitting apart or something? I think @DavidHoweTiling had an issue or two.

Pretty sure they've been over that bridge for a while now.

 

[J Sid]

Yes Dan. Even though they sorted out most customers / tradesmen, its still hard to go back and use it again.
I feel so much more convenient with Ditra.

 

[Dave]

The problem with Dural was sorted a while ago now..

Prices are roughly :

30mtr Dural £140 + vat

30 mtr Ditra £170 + vat

Summit like that

I do prefer Ditra as it rolls out easier IMHO and less curl at the roll ends.

 

[Dan]

£6.80 inc VAT per meter for ditra then. £5.60 for dural.

Not bad for either I don't think.

 

[Dan]

Dural at CTD was 150 + VAT 3 years ago: http://www.tilersforums.com/threads/dural-trade-prices.58088

 

[widler]

Ditra and Dural has come down in price sine I priced it, Twas nigh on £650 for 60m2
Julian , I think it's a northern thing about tile master, not only is it good stuff and made in england(I think ) but it's up north, so we know it's tough,hard ,made to last and can drink full pints

 

[Old Mod]

I've done 100m2 plus floors with Dural and had no issues, but that's in recent years, after their original issues. I must admit having the final mesh layer does appear to make a difference in the bond strength to the mat. Having had a labourer try and remove a 500x700 piece of limestone from it, I could have just told him to cut straight thro the joint and mat in one go to remove it, but I forgot!
Truth was I wanted to see just how good it was! Took him 45 mins to hack it off completely
It stuck like the proverbial! .....had to cut the mat out anyway, it was destroyed! Good job it wasn't grouted and the last stone of the previous day
When using Dural I always try and cut my lengths the previous day and lay it out upside down over night on some corex or something.
Next day it's perfectly flat and much easier to keep flat.
.......having said all that, 9 times outta 10 I use Ditra! Haha

 

[Dan]

I didn't realise BAL did a matting too?! Did I read that correctly?

 

[Old Mod]

Yeah Bal Rapid Mat. Used it once. Fits easily but can gather if u push too hard when laying, jobs a year old and no phone call. It was main contractors wish to decouple, confused me a bit, it was a solid ground floor hallway. As it was original style Victorian I couldn't use regular decouplers, tiles were too small, so went with the Rapid Mat.

 

[Dan]

Yeah Bal Rapid Mat. Used it once. Fits easily but can gather if u push too hard when laying, jobs a year old and no phone call. It was main contractors wish to decouple, confused me a bit, it was a solid ground floor hallway. As it was original style Victorian I couldn't use regular decouplers, tiles were too small, so went with the Rapid Mat.


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Why can't you use regular decouplers on small tiles?

 

[Old Mod]

Why can't you use regular decouplers on small tiles?

Most have a minimum tile limit of 50x50mm because of point loading @Dan, it crushes the mat. That's why when a mat is laid ideally it should be boarded temporarily until ready for use.
Unlike the Bal Rapid and I'd assume the Tilemaster, and any similar product.

 

[Dan]

Most have a minimum tile limit of 50x50mm because of point loading @Dan, it crushes the mat. That's why when a mat is laid ideally it should be boarded temporarily until ready for use.
Unlike the Bal Rapid and I'd assume the Tilemaster, and any similar product.

I see. So is it a different design completely?

 

[Old Mod]

Yeah it's 0.85mm thick!

 

[Dan]

I see!

 

[Dan]

The problem with Dural was sorted a while ago now..

Prices are roughly :

30mtr Dural £140 + vat

30 mtr Ditra £170 + vat

Summit like that

I do prefer Ditra as it rolls out easier IMHO and less curl at the roll ends.

Schluter ditra matting 30sqm roll | eBay
I think that just about beats your prices?

 

[Dave]

Schluter ditra matting 30sqm roll | eBay
I think that just about beats your prices?

That's collection only ...

And I checked , CTD is £199 inc...

 

[Dan]

Bloody hell so it is. Who puts stuff on ebay for collection only eh?! lol

Your CTD price is pretty much the cheapest I think there mate.