Daywork rate

[Ian]

As most others have mentioned Phil, I also charge £20 per hour but I base that on an 8 hour day so, £160 per day. I've charged that price for 4.5 years now and to be honest, if I went any higher I'd lose too much work. In most situations the customers will ask me to supply adhesive/grout/trims/hardie etc so it's quite easy to sneak another £20 per day onto the materials. There are some cases where I've has to price at £130 or even £120 per day just to get the work, my view on that is, it's better to earn £600 per week than be sat at home watching homes under the hammer

 

[jonnyc]

phil.
i would try and get them to accept a fixed price saying that then they know exactly where they are.
this way im sure you can earn your usual day rate.
if you have to give a day rate then i guess you charge whatever you need to, to get the work in if you really want this work.
it does not matter how much the rate is.
if this is a repeat domestic client then there really wont be any knock on in future but if it is for a contractor who will use you again in future then you will be setting yourself up to only able to charge as much as your last job.then word could get around and this is not good.
times are really tough , i had a terrible jan/feb this year .
the only way i survived was by writing to over a hundred old clients and offering cut price cleaning and resealing jobs.
it brought in 55k of work but many times the wages of my employees were not even covered and they cost me £ 200.00 pp per day.
still it saved me but what will happen in couple of years time when the client is ready for another cleaan/seal is that they will expect to pay the 40 % reduced price they had this year over previous times.
so that will cost me dear in future but it was only way to help cover wages.
sometimes we just have to bury our pride and do work at less than what we should be paid.
best of luck

 

[Andy Allen]

same as Bri, if I charged £200 a day round here I would never work, too many tilers , and good tilers at that, charging silly day rates at the mo, I try and supply as much as poss inc tiles to bump my money up to as near to £200 a day as poss.......Good luck phil, charge what you think your worth. don't be greedy im sure your worth every penny...

 

[Protilers]

I aim for £200 per day (8 hrs) plus expenses..
But if I wanted the job like BRI says.....I would go as low as £120......I can't stand Jeremy kyle!!!

 

[Colour Republic]

I very rarely work on day rate as it's almost always on price. I charge for jobs what I think it is worth to the customer and how hard it is and the value of tools needed, this means my day rate can range anything from £100 - £500. Sometimes my rate can vary by this much on the same job, whereby I only earn £100 for a task that takes me a day and yet the next day I could earn £400 for a different task.

I can fit a kitchen with the most basic of tools, however seeing as i've spent thousands and thousands of pounds on tools to make kitchen fitting a lot easier and far quicker I'll be buggered if i'm going to work it on the same rate as before the investment of those tools.

Very recently on another forum I put forward a simple job that i'd done earlier this year and asked people to price it to see what they would have charged. It was a nice easy one to price from pictures and I gave them full details of the spec.

Now all these tradesmen work on similar rates of £140-£180 per day and i'm sure most think they earn similar amounts each week. However the differences in price was huge and a real eye opener. They ranged from £550 to £1,200, estimated time to do the job ranged from 2 hard days up to others saying it would take 5 days.

Same job, same day rates, massive difference in price!

If you've worked for these people before at £200 per day, surely they knew this before asking you again to undertake this work? I wouldn't worry about what others charge and just charge what you are worth, if you do drop you're rate then make sure they know it is for repeat business reasons and not because you're trying to compete with others

JMO

 

[Peter]

When the bit comes to the bit, I'd work for £60 a day if it meant sitting in the house otherwise.

 

[Aston]

Hi phil,
i tend to price for the job on domestics and then get it done as quickly as possible.
if its commercial work then its per meter,

i think £150 is a decent day rate, 6 days and thats £900 a week...its better to work consistanty for £150 a day than to be in and out of work hoping for £200...but that said, if you can get £200 a day then all power to you.

i also hate jeremy kyle so if i do have to go in low rather than sitting in the house then i its better than nothing and it keeps you sane ;0)

all the best phil, i'll be off again for a few weeks now working late and getting away with the kids in the hols so call me if you need a chat ;0)

ed

 

[Pebbs]

The dreaded day work rate debate, I don't like paying dayworks, as I see a reduction in output across the board, but sometimes it has to be done. Some of you have hit the nail on the head, you can easily price yourself out of the job, by quoting what you may have been quoting 4 years ago. What are you going to do...sit at home? fine if you can afford to sit indoors, or are you going to sit and stew about being knocked £30.00 a day? You have to be realistic about the climate at the moment, its bad out there, I am upfront at the start of every contract with the lads, if theres good margins in the job then the rates are adjusted, if there isent they are all told beforehand, that way they are given the opportunity to either do the contract or go down the road to the next stone company. What I cannot bear is moaning, you men do my head in sometimes, your worse than us women....moan moan moan. I snapped big time a few weeks ago, when it started raining and three of them said they couldn't work outside, but there were 25 bathrooms to finish of on the inside, which they could have jumped on. So then it kicked off, like I have asked them to commit murder! I came out of the meeting and low and behold the three muskateers are still standing outside the site on the eternal *** break. I had just been ripped apart for lagging behind on the programme, and it was a rag flag moment. Some peoples attitude stinks when it comes to day works....spin the days out, because your still getting paid, its a nightmare to keep checking where everyone is and what they are doing.

Things will get better, no one likes reduced day work rates, but you still have to put bread on the table at the end of the week.

Lynn

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Price it to get it then the next job can be a bit more as you are working!

 

[Peter]

All luck of the draw for the customer depending on how busy the tiler is and how much they quote.