any seal product to cover large gap between tiles and shower tray??

[aflemi]

Called back by customer whose Gulf Stone floor tiles I rescued and relaid earlier this year ( were dot'n'dabbed on 6mm hardboard !!!!!!!! ). The bathroom 'fitter' has left a 10mm gap between tile and shower tray which has been carefully GROUTED. Unsuprisingly, this has started to crack and is leaking below. Does anyone know of a product which could seal this large gap? I thought Schluter did something but can't see it on their website. I remember seeing something like the old 'L' profile bath seal but more flexible......

 

[hillhead]

Why the hell could he not lift the tray up a bit more?or can you? This is the wall tiles i take it?

 

[Colour Republic]

nope, says floor tiles hillhead

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I'am reading this as - aflemi has relaid the floor - but the same tile has been used in the shower (by others) and there is a 10mm gap from the bottom tile to the shower tray.
I'd cut an upstand of about 50mm high from the Gulf stone tiles,round the top, and silicone seal them onto the front of the existing tiles to cover the gap and form a skirting effect/seal in the shower.

 

[beanz]

If it is the walls in the shower, you might be able to make up the gap with window trim (not sure of the exact name, but you get it from window manufacturers and is very cheap). I don't know if it comes in different sizes, the one i got from a mate was slightly smaller that 10mm, but you might be able to get larger (not sure). Leaves a really nice finish though.

 

[aflemi]

Beanz, you are correct it is the the tiles in the shower cubicle walls. Apologies for the non-essential info re floor! I think I know what you mean re window trim, but I was really searching for something more specific to the tile/tray situation. If anyone knows of a product designed for this purpose I would be grateful....:smilewinkgrin:

 

[CON5933]

Hi Aflemi, can you pop the bottom row of tiles off at all..(any spares?) and fit a bath/shower trim? then refit, this would take up the 10mm and seal at the same time...

 

[CON5933]

if no spares available, suggest a different tile around the bottom and make it a border feature??

 

[CON5933]

similar 'retro' fit of seal...

 

[CON5933]

i'll try again..
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[macten]

Don't touch seals - they leak like a sieve in the corners!

 

[beanz]

Surely if you get plenty of silicone behind them, then silicone the outside too, they should be fine. Admittedly, when i used the window trim i had tanked behind it, then siliconed behind and on top. Looked great! Wish i'd taken a photo now...

 

[macten]

I've fixed 6 leaks in bathrooms with this stuff on, takes ages to get off as loads of silicone behind and on top.
3 were seals made for ontop of tile, 3 were made to go behind tile.
All leaking like good ones in the corners - don't touch the stuff - plus they go mouldy and discoloured real quick.

 

[beanz]

I've fixed 6 leaks in bathrooms with this stuff on, takes ages to get off as loads of silicone behind and on top.
3 were seals made for ontop of tile, 3 were made to go behind tile.
All leaking like good ones in the corners - don't touch the stuff - plus they go mouldy and discoloured real quick.

Interesting to hear.

 

[aflemi]

I've fixed 6 leaks in bathrooms with this stuff on, takes ages to get off as loads of silicone behind and on top.
3 were seals made for ontop of tile, 3 were made to go behind tile.
All leaking like good ones in the corners - don't touch the stuff - plus they go mouldy and discoloured real quick.

What would you recommend Macten? I had been starting to like the sound of the 'window trim' with tanking behind and siliconed top and bottom. Corner obviously a potential problem area, but I think if it's monitered and any failure rectified quickly then it could be the best bet. Can't raise shower tray as its a quadrant so impossible to fill the curved gap which would be left.

ps can't risk removing tiles as no spares.

 

[beanz]

What would you recommend Macten? I had been starting to like the sound of the 'window trim' with tanking behind and siliconed top and bottom. Corner obviously a potential problem area, but I think if it's monitered and any failure rectified quickly then it could be the best bet. Can't raise shower tray as its a quadrant so impossible to fill the curved gap which would be left.

ps can't risk removing tiles as no spares.

Make sure you silicone behind the trim (If you end up going down this route), as well as top and bottom, if only to hold the trim in place.

 

[CON5933]

I've fixed 6 leaks in bathrooms with this stuff on, takes ages to get off as loads of silicone behind and on top.
3 were seals made for ontop of tile, 3 were made to go behind tile.
All leaking like good ones in the corners - don't touch the stuff - plus they go mouldy and discoloured real quick.

I understand what you mean Mac, but i've never had a problem with them.as long as they are sealed properly and the substrate is protected..
as far as discolouring goes....oh ok then:smilewinkgrin:

 

[macten]

What would you recommend Macten? I had been starting to like the sound of the 'window trim' with tanking behind and siliconed top and bottom. Corner obviously a potential problem area, but I think if it's monitered and any failure rectified quickly then it could be the best bet. Can't raise shower tray as its a quadrant so impossible to fill the curved gap which would be left.

ps can't risk removing tiles as no spares.

Well if you can't raise tray or replace better fitting tiles then I guess you will have to go this route.
Get you're internal mitres absolutely spot on and use LOADS of silicone and don't use shower for 48 hrs.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I thought my option in post 4 was a possibility!
What colour are the wall tiles in the shower - Gulf Stone is normally black - so any trim/window seal will stand out a bit!
Another option is a Cristal bath trim set of moulded quadrants - they use to make them in all colours inc black, but you might only get white these days

 

[macten]

Sorry Timeless - genius idea if he has spare tiles for skirting

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Sorry Timeless - genius idea if he has spare tiles for skirting

He could always buy 1 tile (about £12-00) and cut it into 6 equal 50mm pieces - which will give 1800mm in length - then round and polish the top edge of each before fixing with black rubber silicone sealant!

 

[DHTiling]

I thought my option in post 4 was a possibility!
What colour are the wall tiles in the shower - Gulf Stone is normally black - so any trim/window seal will stand out a bit!
Another option is a Cristal bath trim set of moulded quadrants - they use to make them in all colours inc black, but you might only get white these days

You can still get a few colours john...

 

[DHTiling]

The quadrant tiles are shaped like this..

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?i...=/images?q=quadrant+bath+tile&hl=en&sa=G&um=1

 

[BTB]

Thats uPVC quadrant.

The alternative is "D Mould" which is a flatter profile and comes in various sizes

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Thats uPVC quadrant.

The alternative is "D Mould" which is a flatter profile and comes in various sizes

No what Dave is showing is ceramic tile trim!

 

[aflemi]

Thanks for all replies chaps, wall tiles are beige and they don't have any spares. I think white is the best match and the old quadrant tiles may work but i think they are a bit bulky. It looks like the specific product I was looking for doesn't exist so I'll give them the options above. thanks again all.

 

[jay]

hi why not 12mm tile trim with back cut off siliconed in place chrome would look good :8: