Went shopping at Morrisons today and....

[Ken Bruty]

heard tannoy announcement "would the owner of a white Ford Transit reg no blah blah please report to the customer information desk" eh? wtf?, who the hell's crashed into my van? was what I thought. I get to the desk and find out that someone is saying I've hit their car!! WHAT!! I then start to relive my journey in as you do. Nope, don't remember going anywhere near anyones car, at this point the morrisons guy says that my paint is on her car and my bumper is scuffed :sick2:. I get outside to a big stocky woman shouting the odds etc.. then I look at my van - er - no actually, there are exactly the same scuffs on my rear bumper that were there when I bought the van and no paint - so I look at her car which is nose in incidentally, me facing nose out. The dent is at a 45deg angle on the offside front wing, so I must be a magician then! as her tyre is poking out so my van would not have been able to contact her front wing at any angle, and, my van is white with grey bumpers, the paint on her wing is black and the white scratches being her undercoat. Anyway, I thought CCTV:hurray:, oh bum facing the opp way:mad2:, so I have to explain all the technical details of how I reversed in and pointing out that the point of impact would have to be frontal and that white paint and grey plastic bumper (clean i might add) does not add up to black paint. Don't need it on a Sunday afternoon do ya . Anyone else been accused of this, and how did ya get on?

 

[DHTiling]

Did u get angry.. :lol:

 

[Ken Bruty]

Lil old me? NEVER! Well inside I was boiling, but placid on the surface and calm and collected, so I'll have to work it out tomorrow when I'm mixing addy by hand or when I'm preparing the floor with me trusty bolster:incazzato:

 

[DHTiling]

Women drivers hey!!..:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Ken Bruty]

Don't get me started Dave :smilewinkgrin:

 

[mikethetile]

ken

I had exactly the same thing working in kettering [not a million miles from you] it took three years to sort out and all the time it was outstanding I lost my no claims bonus and was classed as a high risk so my insurance was horrendous, it was finally sorted earlier this year and my no claims was restored, I was able to recover discounts for every year from my insurers which more than covered this years premiums

my advice to you is to involve the police now as it is a criminal offence to attempt to defraud an insurance company

I couldnt as I hadnt involved the law at the time, had I done that it would have been sorted at the time and saved me a lot of time and aggro not to mention money

 

[user123]

WHATT??? That's outrageous!!!!! Nothing to do with woman drivers, more with corrupt minds..... good grief, I'm stumped how anyone could claim such a thing!! Had she been cruising around the carpark to find a car or van with a dent?? Beggars belief.... :ban:

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

funny the same thing happend to my mr's tesco's about a year ago, they called mr's gooner out and she could not believe it!! it turned out that the mrs said it mest have been a shopping trolly as our was marked to !! she stood her ground against two of them barking at her (proud of her for this ) and they just cleard off with all the threat's of the police and stuff ,she never heard anything more i dont think the police can do anything on private/or crown land!!!

 

[Pebbs]

Ken Im glad you didnt lose your temper, but I know deep down I would have gone crazy. Im the first person to hold my hands up if I've done something wrong, but to be accused of something when your innocent puts me over the edge.

Lynn

 

[Ken Bruty]

Still steaming about it, I just rang Morrisons to find out if the CCTV would have caught it, and the guy said it would defo show up on the CCTV as it was on the top car park which is fully covered by CCTV 24hrs, but they could only provide footage to the insurance company if required, mmmm something smells a bit here :veryangry2:

 

[Olz]

Some one has put a dint in mine, only a small one mind, but they've just gone on their merry way without saying anything or leaving a note, it's £100 I could do with not having to spend to get it fixed :mad2:

 

[Ken Bruty]

Some one has put a dint in mine, only a small one mind, but they've just gone on their merry way without saying anything or leaving a note, it's £100 I could do with not having to spend to get it fixed :mad2:

It's outrageous Oli, I would always own up anyway and leave my number.

 

[david campbell]

she deserves her car keyed😳 sorry did i say that out loud,these people get there day eventually just wish i was there to see it

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Well done for keeping your cool Ken, I hope I would do the same. Doubt it though:mad2:

 

[Colour Republic]

Still steaming about it, I just rang Morrisons to find out if the CCTV would have caught it, and the guy said it would defo show up on the CCTV as it was on the top car park which is fully covered by CCTV 24hrs, but they could only provide footage to the insurance company if required, mmmm something smells a bit here :veryangry2:

Rubbish under the data protection act they have to provide you with the footage for a nominal £10 fee, hang on....

How CCTV is used in the community : Directgov - Home and community

I would request the footage, I would also ask for footage at the entrance of the car park just in case you can prove the other car entered the car park after you did.

EDIT: oh by the way get your request in early as I believe they only have to keep the recordings for 30 days at which point they can tape over it although some companies will keep it for longer

How to request CCTV footage

You have the right to access images of yourself that may have been recorded by a CCTV camera system. This is because the Data Protection Act of 1998 means that public bodies like local councils need to make any personal data available to you if you request it. Personal data is information that relates to an individual and is held by the public body.
You will need to make a request in writing to the owner of the CCTV system. The details of the owner are usually written on a sign attached to the camera. You will need to give them enough information to identify you, for example a specific date and time, and a description of yourself and your clothing. They may charge you a fee of up to £10 for a copy of the footage.
If you contact a public body that holds CCTV footage of you, they must give you a copy of those images within 40 days. They may send you an edited version of the CCTV footage to protect the identities of other people shown in the footage.


Edited footage

The CCTV recording may be edited to make sure that you can’t see any other personal data that doesn’t relate to you, like:

• a vehicle registration number that is not yours
• an unfair intrusion into the privacy of another person

Contact your local council for more information about how CCTV is used in your community, or see their CCTV code of practice for more about the use of CCTV cameras and the Data Protection Act.

 

[Ken Bruty]

Brilliant info Rob, I will follow that up. Thanks

 

[Colour Republic]

What you're doing is a SAR (Subject Access Request), there are a few template letters on the net, you will need to povide them with some details like your van reg, colour and a rough time. It is a legal letter so send it as such, i'd include a postal order or cheque with the letter, the MAXIMUM they can charge you is £10 so if they get funny (which they shouldn't) state your rights.

Anybody can do this with any company that has details on them, in fact our customers could serve an SAR to any one of us, in most cases the data would be limited to emails, quotes, invoices and contact details so is quite easy to supply them with. Basically any info you store, you should also take some precautions to protect there data from getting into the wrong hands

 

[Time's Ran Out]

It's outrageous Oli, I would always own up anyway and leave my number.

I'd do the same - leave your number!

 

[mikethetile]

you rang the law yet Ken

im not kidding, I told this woman to do one as it was obvious I hadnt hit her and thought that was the end of it

not so, she gave my reg to her insurers and that was it , no one believed me why would they her car was damaged and I was there and didnt report it

had I reported it I would have apolice statement saying theres no damage to my van and I couldnt have damaged her car

vans are a good target as the drivers are often employees who can argue all they like. they wont be believed or could be questioned for having the van in a supermarket car park

REPORT IT NOW KEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[faithhealer]

Went back to my van today to find a note on the windscreen. In brief accusing my door of denting their car and have taken photos etc and will be reporting it etc. They can go and stuff themselves too
what a day!

 

[user123]

Went back to my van today to find a note on the windscreen. In brief accusing my door of denting their car and have taken photos etc and will be reporting it etc. They can go and stuff themselves too
what a day!

God, that wasn't in Scarborough, was it?? Maybe it's a scam gang thing going on?? :yikes:

 

[Ken Bruty]

you rang the law yet Ken

im not kidding, I told this woman to do one as it was obvious I hadnt hit her and thought that was the end of it

not so, she gave my reg to her insurers and that was it , no one believed me why would they her car was damaged and I was there and didnt report it

had I reported it I would have apolice statement saying theres no damage to my van and I couldnt have damaged her car

vans are a good target as the drivers are often employees who can argue all they like. they wont be believed or could be questioned for having the van in a supermarket car park

REPORT IT NOW KEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Mike,

the guy at Morrisons reported it and got a crime number while we were talking he took details of the time etc., so do I still need to do this?

 

[Ken Bruty]

Went back to my van today to find a note on the windscreen. In brief accusing my door of denting their car and have taken photos etc and will be reporting it etc. They can go and stuff themselves too
what a day!

Bloody hell John, is this a nationwide scam against van drivers or something?

 

[hillhead]

Good luck with this all guys,bloody mind of some people beggars belief.
I sold a bike last night to a guy,i know him so let him pay me in two lots.
He says i have changed a few parts now,i rang him to set him straight !!!!!! ( i done no such thing to the bike,only upgraded).
There is people everywhere trying it on,we can't be too careful.

 

[user123]

I just googled - there is a 'crash for cash' scam going on, maybe this is just a new version of it?

Timeless John, you're a bad cat... :lol: