Embedding shower screen in tiles...

[Jayney71]

Hi everyone...

This is really difficult to describe but I'll try my best!...

We're having an en suite fitted and the shower is a wet-room type with no visible tray. The shower is separated from the rest of the room by a thick nib wall which will have a piece of glass as a screen set into it and then a gap to allow access... so approx 1/3 of the width of the room is nib wall, then 1/3 screen, then 1/3 gap. The nib wall will be tiled around and the glass embedded in a slot by approx 100mm with the tiling running up to it on both sides.

What I'm having trouble with is that I think we'll be able to see the cut edges of the tiles where they butt up to the glass from the opposite sides (through the glass) and possibly further into the slot behind the tiles when looking from an angle.

If anyone understands this I'd really appreciate any ideas! The only idea I've thought of is having the section of glass that goes into the slot painted/coloured in a dark grey but I've no idea how to do this and whether it'd be waterproof.

Looking forward to any ideas
Jayney

 

[WetSaw]

Use an aluminium "U" profile to sit the glass in.

 

[Jayney71]

Use an aluminium "U" profile to sit the glass in.

Thanks... but as the glass is embedded by 100mm it would have be a very tall U, wouldn't it?... and how would the aluminium profile be fixed?...and we'd have to do something similar in the slot on the floor? We're relying on the depth of the slot to support the glass so we don't need to have the clutter of brackets etc.
Sorry for so many questions.... I just need to understand how and if this would work.
J

 

[WetSaw]

Why is the glass going so deep?
Tile trim either side of the glass is another option.

 

[WetSaw]

 

[Jayney71]

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Hi...

It's going so deep to support the glass so we don't need any brackets etc. Would some sort of channel give enough support?

I'm probably not understanding but how would the tile trim stop the problem of seeing something you don't want to see through the glass? I think you'd be able to see the perforated side of the trim.

Thx
J

 

[WetSaw]

I assume you're going for something similar to this without the top brackets?
Have you had the glass specified by someone because a piece of glass unsupported that size is going to be very thick and heavy.
The tile trim is fitted with the perforated side under the tile.

 

[Jayney71]

View attachment 99548 I assume you're going for something similar to this without the top brackets?
Have you had the glass specified by someone because a piece of glass unsupported that size is going to be very thick and heavy.
The tile trim is fitted with the perforated side under the tile.

The visible piece of glass would only be about 300mm wide with another 100mm embedded in the nib wall and also set into a slot in the floor... and yes, without any brackets... so we're sure it will be ok. It's just we don't want it looking a mess and we're very fussy!

The tile trim option would only hide the cut edges of the tiles either side of the slot opening but then we'd still be able to see further down, wouldn't we?

Jx

 

[WetSaw]

Just read your original post again. So the glass will be set into a wall on 1 side and the bottom? If so it really doesn't need to be set in 100mm at the bottom.

 

[Jayney71]

Just read your original post again. So the glass will be set into a wall on 1 side and the bottom? If so it really doesn't need to be set in 100mm at the bottom.

Yes, but we're not setting it in that much at the bottom... only the tile depth.

 

[WetSaw]

How thick is the glass?

 

[Jayney71]

How thick is the glass?

It's 10mm.

 

[Kieks]

So your glass you have is 400mm. You want to slide the glass into the nib 100 mm, leaving only 300mm exposed?

There’s profiles you can get for the wall and floor, I use mainly majestic screens. That are almost invisible.

I certainly wouldn’t be burying the glass 4 inches in the wall.

 

[WetSaw]

I certainly wouldn’t be burying the glass 4 inches in the wall.

Me neither!

 

[WetSaw]

Some ideas..

 

[Jayney71]

So your glass you have is 400mm. You want to slide the glass into the nib 100 mm, leaving only 300mm exposed?

There’s profiles you can get for the wall and floor, I use mainly majestic screens. That are almost invisible.

I certainly wouldn’t be burying the glass 4 inches in the wall.

Hmmm, seems like this might not have been the best idea! Can you recommend a profile?

J

 

[Jayney71]

Some ideas..

Thanks
J

 

[Lakey]

Schluter do a U wall & floor profile/channel to embed glass.
I think it's called Schluter Deco?

 

[Flintstone]

I think @3_fall has done a job with this sort of set up in recent times and might be able to offer a few ideas.

 

[Schlüter-Systems Ltd]

Schluter do a U wall & floor profile/channel to embed glass.
I think it's called Schluter Deco?

Thanks Lakey,

We do have a profile called DECO-SG (Schlüter®-DECO-SG | Function | Schlüter-Systems - http://www.schluter.co.uk/deco-sg.aspx) which can be used to integrate a shower screen. Call the office on 01530 813396 or email [email protected] if you'd like to find your nearest reseller, arrange a sample or have any questions.

 

[Lakey]

Thanks Lakey,

We do have a profile called DECO-SG (Schlüter®-DECO-SG | Function | Schlüter-Systems - http://www.schluter.co.uk/deco-sg.aspx) which can be used to integrate a shower screen. Call the office on 01530 813396 or email [email protected] if you'd like to find your nearest reseller, arrange a sample or have any questions.

Wouldn't have known if I hadn't been on your training course yesterday!! (well recommended!)

 

[Qwerty]

Bespoke Glass Shower Enclosures, Panels & Screens - Marvin and Pinch - https://marvinandpinch.co.uk ..... another forum sponsor sell them and other shower screen parts

 

[Jayney71]

Thanks Lakey,

We do have a profile called DECO-SG (Schlüter®-DECO-SG | Function | Schlüter-Systems - http://www.schluter.co.uk/deco-sg.aspx) which can be used to integrate a shower screen. Call the office on 01530 813396 or email [email protected] if you'd like to find your nearest reseller, arrange a sample or have any questions.

Hi

I've just looked at that and it would be possible for us to use it in the wall but our floor tiles are already laid with a slot cut for the glass so we wouldn't be able to set the flange underneath the tiles. Do Schluter do a plain U channel (without the flange)?

We've already used FINEC for corners (which looks really neat) in the stone grey and dark graphite colours. Do you do the DECO-SG and/or any other U channel to match the stone grey, or in stainless steel which would match our slot drain?

Many thanks
J

 

[Sam68MvAgusta]

Why bother with the glass at all, just extend the wall/nib to the length you want it, as for sinking the glass into the floor your just asking for trouble.

 

[Flintstone]

Probably because she doesn’t want it dark and enclosed, Simon.

 

[Dumbo]

I do agree with Simon as to sinking the screen into the floor . I would just silicone to floor because if you think about it, if you we're to knock it hard enough to break the silicone seal that would be an almighty wack . After all nobody seems to have a problem siliconing shower screens to walk in showers , same difference .

 

[Sam68MvAgusta]

Probably because she doesn’t want it dark and enclosed, Simon.

Maybe but we're only talking 300mm of glass here, better off putting a couple of IP65's downlights in there.