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the 17 Italian time. antonio explain ahah
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One Day
You may be right too! I'm going to email and ask them...
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J Sid
you may need to hassle them a hit to get a reply 🙁
I would have thought if you try to peel it up after it is fixed the fleece should stay behind, which I know happen when done well.
I know the adhesive should not stick on top, that's why you can't use a highly modified adhesive. What you use when sticking Gulf Stone to Ditra, god only knows 🙂
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Stef
Over in America they pre fill Ditra, I've questioned this but they all state that it's fine.
I done the Schluter course & was told pre filling was a big no no as your adhesive doesn't stick to the top of the Ditra.
As Julian states the fleece should be well anchored to the floor so it can then stretch.
I done the Schluter course & was told pre filling was a big no no as your adhesive doesn't stick to the top of the Ditra.
As Julian states the fleece should be well anchored to the floor so it can then stretch.
Thank you for the posts and advice in helping out F430 and his questions. We have spoken this morning and hopefully we have put his concerns at rest.
AnhyFix has been in production now for approximately 6 years so you can imagine how much has been used to fix different types of uncoupling membranes including Ditra Matting of course. Over the years I have taken numerous calls related to fixing tiles to anhydrite screed and i personally on many occasions have suggested using Ditra Matting fixed with AnhyFix.
I am not aware of any issues where AnhyFix adhesive has not bonded sufficiently to Ditra Matting.
Adhesive that has only recently been applied is still "green". Rapid setting adhesive will hold moisture for a number of days and progressively day by day the adhesion / bond increases as the adhesive hydrates. Sure, rapid set adhesives set sufficiently to walk on after 2 - 3 hours but they will then continue to progress with time.
AnhyFix at full set is an extremely strong adhesive with high adhesion properties, comparable to a C2 type cement based adhesive. At full set, the adhesive will anchor the fleece down and if you tried to take up the Ditra I am pretty certain that it would tear the fleece away from the underside of the plastic.
From reading the posts above, there is uncertainty when it comes to fixing Ditra Matting and as manufacturers we need to be providing clear and concise advice and solutions.
I have asked my colleagues to contact Schluter to see if between us we can carry out tests using different Tilemaster adhesives to fix Ditra Matting. The result of which will hopefully mean we can provide some clear instructions for people to follow.
Best Regards
Mark
AnhyFix has been in production now for approximately 6 years so you can imagine how much has been used to fix different types of uncoupling membranes including Ditra Matting of course. Over the years I have taken numerous calls related to fixing tiles to anhydrite screed and i personally on many occasions have suggested using Ditra Matting fixed with AnhyFix.
I am not aware of any issues where AnhyFix adhesive has not bonded sufficiently to Ditra Matting.
Adhesive that has only recently been applied is still "green". Rapid setting adhesive will hold moisture for a number of days and progressively day by day the adhesion / bond increases as the adhesive hydrates. Sure, rapid set adhesives set sufficiently to walk on after 2 - 3 hours but they will then continue to progress with time.
AnhyFix at full set is an extremely strong adhesive with high adhesion properties, comparable to a C2 type cement based adhesive. At full set, the adhesive will anchor the fleece down and if you tried to take up the Ditra I am pretty certain that it would tear the fleece away from the underside of the plastic.
From reading the posts above, there is uncertainty when it comes to fixing Ditra Matting and as manufacturers we need to be providing clear and concise advice and solutions.
I have asked my colleagues to contact Schluter to see if between us we can carry out tests using different Tilemaster adhesives to fix Ditra Matting. The result of which will hopefully mean we can provide some clear instructions for people to follow.
Best Regards
Mark
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hmtiling
used kerakol h40 ideal last time i decoupled an anhydrite screed and was very worried and how well the addy bonded to the fleece the next day. a week later you could not seperate the 2.
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hmtiling
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Rich Midge
We used Ultimate to fit approx 200 mtrs of Porcelanosa matting and had a similar scare. It was my first time using both materials so did a pull test after about 3hours and again in the morning. On both occasions I was able to lift the matting but it was definitely more difficult next day. Needless to say, after a few days there was absolutely no budging it. Porcelanosas spec for the job was S2 to stick down the decoupler, S1 to fit the tiles. I've stuck with that process ever since onto timber. Ultimate, decoupler, Setaflex. Never had to decouple over Anhydrite and only ever used Anhyfix once to date but found it an excellent adhesive.
Give tile masters the number they will tell you
The adhesive is great used many times we use it with Dural matting
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My current job. 300sqm of Ditra to fix with Anhyfix...
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Antonio - I bought a few Raimondi bits this past week...
(don't know why it's turned over!)
(don't know why it's turned over!)
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Yes Imp did you buy the ones of ferramenta web or somewhere like it ?
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It's raimondi!
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ouch ....
then there is a problem. if they are raimondi.
it could be. worn red wedges.
or impish. not yet learned how to push. red wedge. ahah lol
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nothing gets pass you 😉
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One Day
12mm tile. they are on the limit.
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as I understand it. julian
you're right. Problem to grow old.
and this....
antonio. not even notices it.
search spiked. up in a barn.
I hope exact wrote.
I apologize to impish 😉
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You are seen. but the problem. They are bent.
not well . vertically.
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Thanks Antonio! This was my first time using them. I didn't think about that.
I struggled for a while (that area took me 6 hours) but by the end of the day I felt I had the hang of it.
I wasn't tightening them past 3 or 4 clicks on the pliers but I will watch out for the alignment on the clips.
I struggled for a while (that area took me 6 hours) but by the end of the day I felt I had the hang of it.
I wasn't tightening them past 3 or 4 clicks on the pliers but I will watch out for the alignment on the clips.
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Now I sleep peaceful. ahah
today,sold out antonio
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Dumbo
Still better than some adhesive manufacturers . When asking them about something once told me how it would all be OK, so ask them to send me written spec . Oh no can't do that as we haven't tested it . That's confidence for you and the tiler left to pick up the pieces
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