Urgent price check required!!!!!!!!!!

[alberttrotter1]

Dear Forum,
Would charging £130 for a 4m2 kitchen splashback be a liberty.
Hopefully, this is a good mates rate, including adhesive and grout. Nothing fancy.
It will include the bottom half of a large window, but as they are using 150mm2 ceramic, it wont be to fiddly.
Please reply quickly so i can get it in.
What would be a good price to the general public????

 

[Dan]

£20 per meter + materials.... I think. Then a small discount for a mate.

 

[alberttrotter1]

Dan,
so would i be looking nearer £110???????????
£80 tiling
£30 adhesive and grout???

 

[Dan]

Well I'd perhaps go for your price in this case just to get a few extra quid. Although generally that was my pricing structure.

 

[alberttrotter1]

Thanks Dan,
I think i'll go for £110 all in.
Nearer £100 than £150.
Its all in the mind.
I'll let you know. Thanks mate.

 

[Dan]

Why don't you say £80 + materials to them and then you can't get stung if you need anything extra for any reason.

 

[alberttrotter1]

Dan,
Do you mean, tell him £80 and then whatever the materials costs????

 

[Dan]

Yes. So say it's £80 to fix the tiles and have your time but then any materials are at an additional cost. And you'll go halves on the trade discount or whatever.

Generally this tactic avoids the "oh **** I forgot to price the three door strips in the job" type situation that costs the tiler but the customer would usually expect to pay.

 

[alberttrotter1]

Cheers Dan,
I'll go for £90, and materials are down to them.
Just over £10 an hour.
I've told him it will take a couple of days but thats doing about 4 hours a day after finishing my shift work.
Thanks for the continued advice. Albert

 

[Dan]

Take your time on it but you should find you wont use up the full 8 hours.

 

[alberttrotter1]

Dan,
Sorry to be a complete pain, but i've got another one for you.

A complete shower/toilet - Full walls and floor.
Straight set everywhere.
18m2 - walls - 6x6 possibly a little bigger, but i'll tell them the price will change if they go bigger.
3.5m2 - floor - 300 x 300, same as above.

Tanking required for the shower only.
Fully prep'd by the builder.
No furniture to remove.
And is it safe to tile straight onto plasterboard following priming???
I have a rough price, but would appreciate input.
This is the mate who thinks it should be done for free, but i want to make good on it as i have told him to get another quote.
Thanks mate.
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Dan,
Just spoke to my mate with reference to the splashback and he's happy with £80 for fixing and he'll leave me to get the gear and bill him.
You have been a patient star - £20 per m2 seems to do it.
Thanks again and i hope the other request i've posted ain't a liberty.
Lokk forward to hearing from you soon.
Albert

 

[Dan]

Glad I could help. Perhaps check the pricing guide (from the other thread) Ceramic Solutions - Price List

 

[BrhTiling]

i don't know what area you are from, but it seems quite difficult to get work around here at the moment.... Personally I would be charing a mate like 60 plus materials for that... 4m2, unless there was / is a lot of akward cuts it isn't going to take more than a day.... I guess it depends how close a mate they are really.

For the other job, floor plus wall, I would charge £400 plus materials.

 

[enduro]

Kitchens, i charge £25 sqm, £15 per power socket, £30 for window plus adhesive and grout, every job i price i get so cant be far wrong.

 

[BrhTiling]

Ok, perhaps I'm just cheap then... or maybe I'm too good to my friends!

Got a painting job on for a friend soon, two rooms and a hall/stair way... probably 3 days work, I will probably only ask them for £200.... if they supply everything.... perhaps I should value my time more!!!??

 

[DHTiling]

£150 a day is the going rate for a qaulity tradesman , mates rates wots them lol lol...

 

[alberttrotter1]

Enduro,
Looking at the way you've worked this kitchen out you would be charging about £250 and then add on adhesives and grout.
That seems a bit steep to fix 4m2????? £15 per power socket - Surely people dont pay that?????

 

[DHTiling]

he's just a greedy git. lol lol lol . sockets should be included in price along with windows etc....

 

[alberttrotter1]

Brhtiling,
Cheers mate, That is what i was going to put in (£400).
Im slowly getting there - Now lets see if the tight wad goes for it.
Albert

 

[GazTech]

£150 a day is the going rate for a qaulity tradesman , mates rates wots them lol lol...

Mates rates don't apply when you have no mates Billy NM

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£140 labour,£50 materials,£10 sundry(fuel & ****) £200. OR £20 materials and no labour to a true mate otherwise £170 to friend of a friend

 

[alberttrotter1]

Gaz,
Looking at your price, i am hoping this is what you will charge for the splashback and not the whole bathroom?????

 

[guy1976]

Glad I could help. Perhaps check the pricing guide (from the other thread) Ceramic Solutions - Price List

wow have you seen the pricing on this other thread i would only work 3 days a week if i was getting those prices

 

[enduro]

With my pricing, i get nearly every job, got three bathrooms today, 2 kitchens, if people think I'm expensive the wouldn't use me. I'm not tiling all day to buy a round of drinks in the pub at the end of the day, I'm here to make a living for me and my family, tiling is a skilled job and the sooner customers realise that the better, they pay loads for there tiles and expect us tilers fix them for nothing.

 

[CJ]

Since when did they pay loads for there tiles?

How many jobs have you been on and they say "Oh, I got a good deal on these tiles.......from BnQ" or where ever.

They supply you enuff tiles to do there whole bathroom..........and it cost them £100

You then tell them its gonna cost £400 to do the job..............and then watch there face's drop

 

[alberttrotter1]

Forum,
With reference to a job price request i placed a bit further up this post.
Im getting a horrible feeling that im getting this pricing side of things very wrong.
I have put in a quote of £584 to do

18m2 ceramics for the walls and
3.5m2 for the floor.

Now having priced up all the gear needed - Using ardex coming to £155 inc vat and inc a £20 charge for the nearest company to me getting the stuff in.

Am i taking the p**s by charging £20m2, considering i can make the same doing overtime at security where i work full time.
Working it out on the price list from Ceramic solutions the other day, the tight git is still getting a lot cheaper.

The guy has said that he'll wait a while so he can go and price up the adhesives himself in case he can get it cheaper.
He will have to sign a disclaimer, saying i wont be responsible if/when it all falls of the wall.

I have also offered Tanking (about £70), but they think it is cheaper to use "backer boards", I havent had any dealings with this stuff yet, but does it need priming before tiling and am i right in thinking that the corner joints will require to be sealed before hand anyway and are there any other things i need to consider when fixing on to it????
I await patiently your replies.

 

[enduro]

He sounds a nightmare that guy your pricing that job for. walk away mate, he sounds trouble.