Other countries tiling trends

[Flintstone]

I'm not sure how many of you are on instagram and alike but it's very apparent that in Australia and America they are big on there water proofing, and the use of mud? Im not totally sure what that is but they form floors and trays with it, and I see a lot of tiled ceilings in bathrooms which is something I've not seen over here, anyone done one like that?

 

[mma]

How about "thin set " ?

 

[Flintstone]

Yeah they all go on about thin set, I assume that's there name for the same stuff we use over here

 

[Dumbo]

I believe they use the word mud like we use the word muck so therefore I believe it's screed . I have Tiled a ceiling in a steam room with green marble mosaics . Some other countries include waterproofing in the building regs or as the yanks like to call it code

 

[Italy]

mud.....
you mean sand cement screed, shower floor?

 

[Andy Allen]

70s pop band aren't they..

 

[Dan]

Mud is sand / cement I think rather than tile adhesive. Thinset is tile adhesive.

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[Flintstone]

I don't think mud is adhesive dan, as Antonio says they seem to create trays out of it, pat it down with the level almost like sand and cement!

 

[Dan]

Sorry mate I'd edited my thread just after you'd posted. You're right.

Register to that forum lads. Reply to my thread. Get involved in showing them what's different over here.

 

[Italy]

I here, use sand and cement shower floor.
product rapid premixed, or normal drying, it depends on the waiting time.

 

[Flintstone]

And then what about water proofing? Do you not have pre formed trays over there ?

 

[One Day]

Mud fixing is sand and cement, maybe with aggregate in for bulking.
I've watched some good vids where they can build up very uneven floors using semi-dry mud and then tile adhesive onto the tiles, bedded into the mud with a rubber mallet.
Bit of a mix of old-school and new.

These ladies could do with a few lessons perhaps:

 

[Aston]

mud in america is sand and cement whether that be render or screed.

 

[One Day]

mud in america is sand and cement whether that be render or screed.

Isn't "thick mud" used as a render, with added lime?

 

[Italy]

And then what about water proofing? Do you not have pre formed trays over there ?

nothing preformed, the procedure is the same as the screed, when dry, waterproofing as you do.
some clients do not trust you even waterproofing, then they place a stainless steel tray, before the screed.
We must also say that here, only 10% of the bathrooms, to shower tile floors, prefer ceramic shower, or fiberglass.

 

[Aston]

Isn't "thick mud" used as a render, with added lime?

Ive never heard the term 'thick mud' imps..

 

[Italy]

like this, then I continue also on the wall (without a net)

 

[Bill]

Mud is sand and cement - all our shower bases were once done in 'mud'..........

I still do the odd one but customers now spend hundreds of pounds buying shower bases.....wish I was a shower base supplier.......

 

[Flintstone]

I find it very un usual that In Italy they don't have pre formed wet trays, and especially in America.

 

[Italy]

I find it very un usual that In Italy they don't have pre formed wet trays, and especially in America.

there are pre-formed, but do not use them.

 

[NZ_Tiler]

I'm not sure how many of you are on instagram and alike but it's very apparent that in Australia and America they are big on there water proofing, and the use of mud? Im not totally sure what that is but they form floors and trays with it, and I see a lot of tiled ceilings in bathrooms which is something I've not seen over here, anyone done one like that?

Hi, in NZ we waterproof all showers. Depending on what region you're in the council may need to inspect it before tiling. Some councils also require a flood test.

As for mud, term isn't used much by tilers I would guess it's more of a bricklayers thing-their motar.

Never tiled a ceiling I do recall our mapei rep saying they won't give any warranty on ceiling tiling, which is fair enough I guess with H&S these days

 

[One Day]

Hi, in NZ we waterproof all showers. Depending on what region you're in the council may need to inspect it before tiling. Some councils also require a flood test.

As for mud, term isn't used much by tilers I would guess it's more of a bricklayers thing-their motar.

Never tiled a ceiling I do recall our mapei rep saying they won't give any warranty on ceiling tiling, which is fair enough I guess with H&S these days

Who pays for the inspection? Roughly how much and what are the consequences of not having an inspection?
I really wish we did the same here...!

 

[NZ_Tiler]

The customer pays(don't know cost). It's part of their building consent.

Renovations are a grey area, may or may not need depending on region/council.

It is good but to be honest my experience is the inspectors don't always know what they are looking at.

No inspection may result in your building not being signed off tiles may need to be ripped off.

When you go to sell the house and no documents for waterproofing it will devalue your property

 

[Italy]

I'm reading this story, I want to see to what degree arrives......
History almost touching ...

 

[Flintstone]

The mud thing, I've seen guys making walls and floors in bathrooms in mud!

 

[stephenoneill]

Tiling trends here in France .Large imitation wood tiles everywhere .All floors are a sand cement screed.2mm joints.10 year guarantee on all work obligatoir

 

[NZ_Tiler]

like this, then I continue also on the wall (without a net)

I've used mapelastic smart quite a lot. Mainly for exterior waterproofing though or swimming pools. Inside we use aqua defence with the SA, it's so fast and easy compared to mapelastic☺

 

[Italy]

Tiling trends here in France .Large imitation wood tiles everywhere .All floors are a sand cement screed.2mm joints.10 year guarantee on all work obligatoir

in Europe and I believe all over the world, ensuring the tiler is 2 years.
the guarantee of 10 years, is for the builder of the house.
(The tiler, can give a guarantee of 10 years, but only if in writing and signed).
but by law, it is not mandatory.

 

[Old Mod]

In the states at least, you're liable for your work for 6 years, regardless.
Even if you only give a 12 month warranty yourself!

 

[Italy]

In the states at least, you're liable for your work for 6 years, regardless.
Even if you only give a 12 month warranty yourself!

What?
repeat repeat...thanks
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