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Obviously you can't just grout an internal corner, it has to be siliconed too, as they always crack.
Then why silicone over something that you know will fail??
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charlie1
I also like the fact that the job only ever looks 70% until you do the silicone... If I had a pound for every time a customer come in and said *what are you gonna do down the corners, then you silicone and the whole job ties in very nicely. The silicone is the ultimate finish and it should be on any tilers mind as soon as they start putting tiles on the wall. I usually keep my silicone joints around 4-5mm, sometimes a bit more around bath or tray, a good consistent joint will raise the standard of your bathroom. Start using silicone joints lads, move with the times and do it right... He'll we all do things wrong sometimes but if we have the chance to raise the overall standard of tiling across Britain then we should take it!!
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charlie1
By grouting, you have removed the required room for expansion beans
Im sat in bed with a lemsip
Which Brings us back to my earlier post. I've never seen any evidence that it IS required!?! I've probably ripped out 30/40 bathrooms in the last 5 years, and not once come across a proper expansion joint in the corners. And I've not seen any sign of tenting. I'm sure one day, I'll be proved wrong, and when that day comes, I'll change my method.
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Im badly in need of a lemsip too lol! I could've done without glossing today, as it really hasn't helped my head!
Always. Hence the bead of clear over the top. It disguises the crack.
Which brings me back to my original question. If you know its going to crack, i.e fail then why "bond" your silicone over the top?
Would this not jepodise the integrity of the sealant?
If its clear over grout for colour then use a colour co-ordinated silicone surely??
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Rizzle from the Portizzle
ok here goes any one that sillcones in the joint or on top of tiling after grouting is waisting your time as it will pull out over time or will pull off the surface in time and let water through so the right way to do this is to silcone the wall or floor joint before you tile then lay tile into wet silcone sealing it behind the tile and the substrate so it can never peel off now you can grout or sillcone the joint and now that there is one layer that will never fail as its pinned in place now thats real tanking at 1 % of the cost
Who , when eh erm what was the question ?
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Qwerty
All of them widler.....I had lost where it all began!
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and ive been doing the job a long time also with no come back ,but every time i put something on here (although this is not my post ) about ten million people dissagree with whatever i say so i have to say to most people on here in your minds experience does not count in your eyes and its sometimes like having a battle instead of just having the job done right , im not suprised that some good tilers out there choose not to come on here and make a statement ,maybe they cant be bothered with the hasstle and do it there own way i dont know
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Although Brian I have learned some new ways and read about new products on this forum which I have taken on board it just seems to be that the way you have been doing things for donkeys with no comebacks is now said to be taboo It does seem to be British Standards this British Standards that,never heard it said so much until I come on hear,I think the right way is the way you are comfortable with and if the client's are happy and you are making money so be it,but I will take on any advice that any of the chaps give on the forum but just dont like to be told my way is wrong.lol.
the silicone is sealed to the tiles either side of the grout. I don't see why a 0.5mm crack in the grout would jeopardise the integrity!?! I could be wrong, but until I see it fail, I don't see any reason to change my methods.
and... Not one person on here has even said they've seen tiles tenting by doing it my way!?!
Ray, I agree that would be the most watertight method. Same as you do when you instal a bath, or basin. But..... Surely, by totally filling the void with silicone, you've removed the movement joint, as there would be nowhere for the silicone to compress into!?! Not that I have any problem with that, of course... Lol
There seems to be a consistency abroad of using grout in corners even in showers and baths. Most of their hotels are all concrete construction and I would guess less liable for movement, hence they don't use silicon as the grout just stays where it should be.
Looking at house construction in the uk over the last 20-25 years the timber used is shocking, bent, twisted all over the place. Walls all out of plumb and not flat. I for one would not want to risk grouting any joints where movement is likely.
Just my 2p's worth.
Looking at house construction in the uk over the last 20-25 years the timber used is shocking, bent, twisted all over the place. Walls all out of plumb and not flat. I for one would not want to risk grouting any joints where movement is likely.
Just my 2p's worth.
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Rookery
And me, and Ginger. The mouse copped it, alas.
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