Natural Slate Sheera Modular

[frogeye]

Hi tiling experts

Has anyone had a problem using this stuff from Topps?
As in is it better than the b & q stuff that is always knocked?
Only for my own small utility room about 10m2
Is there a similar product but cheaper you would recommend?

frogeye (still retired)

ps forgot to add - will use the bal green screed adhesive - nice man at ctd doing it for £25

 

[DHTiling]

Why Green screed addy..?

 

[frogeye]

Hi Dave
it's because my screed - about 80mm - is only 10 days old. Seems rock hard to me, but I asked on a thread about drying times and the consensus seemed to be a min of 4 weeks - but I cant wait that long.

So I will prime it and get moving as it's holding up me building the toilet enclosure

 

[DHTiling]

Righty ho!!

 

[theyomper]

Have just laid about 30 m2 of sheera slate in a kitchen. I found no problems with it, if fact it was was of the easiest that I have laid for a long time. It is calibrated with very few variations in thickness. The pink shaded ones tend to be a little on the fragile side so just be aware of these. I'm back there tomorrow so I'll take and post some piccies......just to please Dave.
Once you get the pattern in your head it should be east peasy.

 

[frogeye]

Cheers yomper

just the sort of advice I was looking for. I always seem to read bad things about slate. I only messed with it once and yes it was the b & q stuff.
Topps have offered me a good deal - normal joe public one and ctd another on the green stuff.

I will get my weber book out and read up on here before jumping in

lee

 

[michel]

Hi Frogeye!!!

just a quickie.....when fixing slate it is better to use a rapid set,
as slate is quite a dence material making it more difficult for a slow set adhesive to "grab it"

michel.

 

[DHTiling]

Hi Frogeye!!!

just a quickie.....when fixing slate it is better to use a rapid set,
as slate is quite a dence material making it more difficult for a slow set adhesive to "grab it"

michel.

Can you ellaborate more on this theory more please..?.

 

[frogeye]

Hi Michel

welcome to the forum from me
Yes I was going for a rapid set - I hope my green screed is one, but I don't think it is...Dave?

 

[DHTiling]

No it isn't..It is 24 hrs..

 

[michel]

slate is very dence stone and some subtrates are not (i.e Wood).
if you use a slow set the adhesive will "grab" the wood very quickly but will possibly not "grab" the slate as quick due to the 12-14 hours of curing.

if it slate on a cured screed then it is not as much of a problem (slow set)
however on a "green" screed it might be.

i have only a small amount of experience in the u.k as i come from south africa, but we use natural stones alot as they are just lying around the place (hehe).

which means i am not familiar with all the products on the u.k market!

 

[DHTiling]

If you use the correct fixing method then standard or rapid set can be used with slate....no probs...

 

[michel]

Great, thanks dave, by the correct fixing methods i believe you mean serrated 90% coverage etc.

 

[DHTiling]

Great, thanks dave, by the correct fixing methods i believe you mean serrated 90% coverage etc.

Nope...100% coverage in the UK....solid bed fix..

 

[michel]

woooooow, 100% coverage.

i have done a few jobs in the u.k since i have been here and the floors that have been created by the building companys i have worked for are not really flat or level, so i have followed the floor, but in order to avoid lippage i have thrown a few "dobs" of adhesive under a tile (large format generally) in order to keep the floor flat (not necc. level). am i doing somthing incorrect, as i will have to insist that the companys i am working for get thier floors reallly flat (between joins of ply etc.) and again not level but flat?
they might not like that.:mad2:

michel.

 

[A.Tiler.]

just laid some of this it all went down pretty sweet apart from the 20x20's were not one bit square and some of them a little too big (had to trim them down to follow the pattern) but apart from that not bad at all.

 

[DHTiling]

just laid some of this it all went down pretty sweet apart from the 20x20's were not one bit square and some of them a little too big (had to trim them down to follow the pattern) but apart from that not bad at all.

 

[A.Tiler.]

i have a picture how do i upload it?

 

[DHTiling]

click that and then go to attachments and upload there....( pics need to be 600x450) or create an album in your profile and upload loads of pics in there..

 

[A.Tiler.]

 

[DHTiling]

WOW..looks good..

 

[A.Tiler.]

thanks,its not grouted yet have a few more foors in the house to lay then seal and grout them together i will upload more pictures when the rest are complete.

 

[DHTiling]

Look forward to them.................we loves pics...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[doug boardley]

Nope...100% coverage in the UK....solid bed fix..

made to last!!lol:lol:

 

[johndriscoll]

I have started to lay the same tiles. I agree a lot of the smaller tiles are not square. Is the only solution to cut them or do I have a case for returning them or is this normal for slate.
More importantley if laying a modular pattern of 2 200mm wide tiles laid next to one 400mm tile with the gap of 5mm between the 2 200s they will not line up IE total lenght 405mm next to 400mm This will happen all over the pattern so how do you solve this please

 

[faithhealer]

I have started to lay the same tiles. I agree a lot of the smaller tiles are not square. Is the only solution to cut them or do I have a case for returning them or is this normal for slate.
More importantley if laying a modular pattern of 2 200mm wide tiles laid next to one 400mm tile with the gap of 5mm between the 2 200s they will not line up IE total lenght 405mm next to 400mm This will happen all over the pattern so how do you solve this please

Afraid most (maybe all) moduler tiles are cut to nominal sizes. (ie no allowance for grout lines) So you have to compromise the grout lines to suit. Slate usually uses a wider grout line so it doesn't look too bad

 

[White Room]

I've used modular travertine and it was a good fit with 3mm joints, never used the slate version. Depending how much was paid and where they came from

 

[faithhealer]

I've used modular travertine and it was a good fit with 3mm joints, never used the slate version. Depending how much was paid and where they came from

I must get the cheap stuff lol. Did a moduler trav the other week they were all over the place size wise.

 

[White Room]

Hope you used Jasmine grout to hide the difference:smilewinkgrin:

 

[faithhealer]

Hope you used Jasmine grout to hide the difference:smilewinkgrin:

beige i think on this one, light walnut on the walls and dark walnut (in theory) on the floor but there wasn't a great deal in it to be honest