Bad feeling of not getting paid!

[gshtiling]

Hi everyone not been on here for a while,been really busy. &nbsp;This is whats happened,about 5 weeks ago I was really quite and had been sending emails,phoning builders,plumbers,kitchen fitters etc to see if the needed a tiler, got a phone call back from a building company saying that they needed somebody the next day for a big job so we agreed a day rate and then I started,all was good and then it came to getting paid and I was supposed to be get paid direct into bank account and he rung and said is cash okay I agreed and then carried on working for him,3 weeks in and then he rung me and started having a go saying me and this other tiler was taking the p#'! out of him and thought we was doing hardly any work,I said I would pull of the job and he could get some one else to do it if he wasn't happy with us,he changed his tone and was okay and said to carry on. &nbsp;This Friday was my last day due to a holiday and the job would be done by the time I return.<br> <br>The bloke thinks everything is a 2 minute job,all the tiles on the job are stone(limestone,sandstone,polished marble and slate) but thinks you can tile a bathroom in 60x10cm individual slate strips about 35m2 of wall tiles,all cleaned,sealed and grouted in 3 days? Anyway he phoned me yesterday asking what I had been doing,is the job complete etc,told him job wasn't finished and reminded him I was on holiday next week(told him about this when i first started) he got really mad said he would ring me later because he didn't want to speak to me any more and then put the phone down. I tried to get hold of him today to get me wage,he owes me 2 weeks wages now(week in hand). &nbsp;Havent heard anything from him and hes not answering the phone,spoke to the joiner today whos been working for him and he isnt answering the phone to him neither.<br> <br>Sorry for the long essay but my thing is I didn't have a contract or anything,dont want to go to his house because he is a nutter so I dony know what I can do? &nbsp;I know not having a contract or anything was naive of me but I was desperate for the work and had never really done much sub contracted before,mainly done private work and work for joiners and plumbers who I know that refer me to their customers.<br> <br>Does anyone know what I can do if he doesn't pay?dont want to take the tiles up what iv layed because the customer has paid for these and its not fair to do that to them?<br>

 

[DHTiling]

wow all that and no full stops.. pants and gathers his breath.. :lol:

 

[hillhead]

Don't panic.He'll calm down.There is a legal route if all fails.Builders are so dangerous lately.

 

[gshtiling]

Just thinking a head but what is the legal action I can take if he doesnt pay?

Tried to put sentences in but put <br> ?

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Hope you get this sorted mate, never a nice feeling that. Good luck, and keep us posted.

 

[Daz]

The first thing to do is issue invoices for all the work previously done and paid for, as well as all outstanding. Either email the invoices or hand deliver direct to the address (hand delivered is best). Make sure that all invoices are dated and have your payment terms clearly stated.

If your client does not (or refuses to) pay, then engage the small claims court (here's a guide Small claims)

Good luck

Daz

 

[gshtiling]

Cheers everyone I will let you know when anything happens, Really annoyed,know of a couple of other people who he has not payed,or payed less then agreed and thinks he can get away with it. Work hard all week and then accuses me of not doing any work,told him yesterday that he could ring the site foreman and the customer to ask if i was working or just sat around doing nothing.got angry and changed the subject. Just out of interest,has anyone every had something like this happen to them?

 

[tfs]

I had something similar a few years back with a builder, the chap was a decorator by trade and sub contracted other trades out.

I had recieved most of the cash I was due but there was £300 outstanding, I just took the hit as I didnt have the time to go through the legal route for £300. He kept using the excuse that he hadnt been to the job yet, he wasnt answering his phione untill I went to other jobs looking for him untill he got the message. Eventualy he tried to give me a snagging list in a bid to delay paying me even further.

One thing I have noticed with some builders is that they try to hang on to there money as long as possible, perhaps they have poor cash flow due to income always going into the next job but the way I see it is if someone engages in your services it is only fair that they make sure you get paid on time.

 

[gshtiling]

He owes me £960 which I have worked very hard for to try keep customer,builders,site foreman happy. And for him to accuse me of not working and just taking the mick out of him makes me very angry. I think if it was about £200 what he owed me I would just leave it and learn from the mistake. Scumbag needs to learn that you cant just do that to people. So I'm going to send invoices today to him and a letter saying something along the lines of if I don't receive payment within 7 days then I will be going to the small claims court.

 

[tfs]

Hope you get it sorted cheif!