UFH for a new build Orangery ?

[Lil Dee]

Hi guys/gals,
I hope you don’t mind me kind of barging in on your forums, but I can see an awful lot of help and experience being shared out and I wondered if you could help me out too ?
My newly built orangery is 300 x 380cm, with bi-fold doors at the front, four large-ish windows, and a “lantern” style glass roof (with a flat roof design surround).
What I’m hoping is that you can guide me in selecting the right kit to provide me with an UFH product that works for me. My orangery has been constructed with a (I’m copying from my quote here) “traditional timber joists floor with moisture resistant tongue and groove boarding” so I won’t be installing onto a concrete base, which is what I’m struggling with, as this is what most of the advice that I've found, refers to.
I have done some reading, and I know I’ll need to put down some floor insulation (like EkoBoard) on top of the existing T&G floor. And, as I’m looking for the UFH to be my primary heat source in the orangery, I’m thinking I need to install a 160-200w system. On top, I am hoping to find a good quality laminate, with a limestone or tavertine finish (or similar) which can cope with the UFH.
I would appreciate any suggestions you can make, and anything for me to look out for. A couple of things I’d like to point out :
1. I am a complete novice. I have no idea how I put the floor insulation down....do I nail it, glue it or what !? And how do I know what depth of baord I need to buy ?
2. Is the UFH matting the best option for me, or could I cope with laying cables ? I take it that I would still need to stick the matting down with the special tape that I would for the loose wiring ?
3. I know about the Part P certification, so I know to get a pro in to do the final connection for me (I have had the electrics installed as part of the build) In the meantime, I take it there’s no reason we can’t lay everything ourselves, and check it all out if we have a multi-meter handy ?
4. What level of UFH heating do I look to go with 100/160/200w ?
5 Is there anything I’m supposed to lay on top of the UFH before I lay the laminate ?
Apologies for the loooong first post, but I’m trying to cover all bases before you all get bored of me !! I hope that you don’t mind me coming along and hassling you all like this.....
Thanks in advance *crosses fingers* LD

 

[DHTiling]

You won't be able to use a standard type of UFH for the laminate floor....and deffo not as high as 200w....

Uheat will able to supply a suitable UFH for under your laminate floor and give you advice over the phone on how to install it and any help you need on products to get the job done...

The ELEKTRA WoodTec ® heating mats are designed to provide heating of floors made of laminated floorboards and/or engineered wood. ELEKTRA WoodTec ® underfloor heating mats are rated at 140W/m2 and can be used as a primary or a supplementary heating system.
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[pjrich]

Hi,

I'll try to answer all your queries:-

1. I am a complete novice. I have no idea how I put the floor insulation down....do I nail it, glue it or what !? And how do I know what depth of baord I need to buy ?

As Dave advised, you should use a product such as our WoodTec. This would be used with an insulating underlay like Izotherm which does not need to be fixed down.

2. Is the UFH matting the best option for me, or could I cope with laying cables ? I take it that I would still need to stick the matting down with the special tape that I would for the loose wiring ?

WoodTec Mats are the answer from the products we sell which does not need to be stuck down, it is self adhesive and will stick to the Izotherm insulating underlay.

3. I know about the Part P certification, so I know to get a pro in to do the final connection for me (I have had the electrics installed as part of the build) In the meantime, I take it there’s no reason we can’t lay everything ourselves, and check it all out if we have a multi-meter handy ?

You can do everything apart from the final connections, which has to be done by a Part P reg electrician.

4. What level of UFH heating do I look to go with 100/160/200w ?

WoodTec heating mats are 140W/m2

5 Is there anything I’m supposed to lay on top of the UFH before I lay the laminate ?

On top of your wooden base floor you would lay Izotherm, then the WoodTec heatings, these woudl then be covered with a 0.2mm Polythene vapour barrier. Your laminate can then be layed directly on the vapour barrier without any further underlays. The total thickness of the Izotherm, WoodTec and Vapour Barrier is approx 7mm.

I hope I have answered all your questions sufficiently, if you require any further help please do not hesitate to contact me.

If you'd like us to prepare a quotation / proposal, please do not hesitate to email details to [email protected].

Warm Regards,

 

[david campbell]

being an orangery would laminate or natural stone really be a good idea,especially with the condensation dripping onto the floor? i know it is an orangery but what are you intending to grow? this is in case it falls and stains your floor! i.e citrus fruits,olives etc could be potentially damaging!

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Mr Campbell - I think an Orangery is just a posh name for a conservatory with a flat roof and raised central apex!
During the day it will be that hot the laminate will most likely shrink and the UFH will only go on in an evening from September through to March - unless global warming alters the seasons more.
Uheat have answered so its Goodbye from me - Oh and :welcome: to the forum.

Timeless John.

 

[Lil Dee]

Thanks for all your replies guys ! I appreciate you taking time out to answer my numerous questions.
PJRich, I may well be knocking on your door in the not too distant future (I'm saving up for the flooring as I type), thanks so much for the pointers...
Timeless John - you're quite right - an oragnery is a posh type of conservatory !! I've fallen into the trap of having a conservatory before, and found it almost unuseable in the winter, and way too hot when we did get a decent run of weather, hence why I have gone for an orangery design this time round.
David - I'd love to grow trees in there, if there's space, so your comments are something to think on.
:hurray: for Tilers Forum - thanks for the welcome !!

 

[chrisroe]

try Karndean ~ The Island collection

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Go for REAL tiles!
I did a summer house a few years ago and the client had a grapevine growing down the back wall - not enough for a Pinot Grigio but a very interesting feature.
Just as a note - IMHO I'd go for a solid floor instead of timber in an Orangery/Conservatory.

Timeless John.