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Good evening everyone.
I've been tiling and working Marble and Granite for seventeen years and I still have lots to learn. Usually after I finish a challenging job someone tells me something that would have been really helpful if said a week before.
I subcontract for a reasonably large Marble Works in the Midlands when they get an unusual site fit and work very closely with the boys programing the CNC's.
Don't get me wrong, I started with a standard bosch grinder and a car polisher with the owner and four farm laborers in 1994 and could carve and polish a corbel set in an hour or so. I loved the therapy of creating and practicing a craft but I know that the only way an Architect, designer or client of some sort will ever get something as awesome as the Victorians created with near slave labor in today's world will be with CNC, not me on a rail saw then standing in wellies for hours with a wet flex.
Sorry to rant straight away.
I wish there were more adventurous clients out there .

I do have a question for the forum regulars if anyone has time to answer. Tis a silly question too.

When I bed marble or tile onto concrete I use sand and cement with additive. Not too fussy about additive as it must be on hand, make the mix creamy, stop slumping and advance the curing time if it is cold. I use white cement on pale limestone's and try to seal Carrara the day before if I get the chance.

Am I committing a tilers Cardinal sin by not paying through the nose for bagged "Tile Adhesive" from one of the well known manufacturers? (BAL, Granfix, Mapie and the rest) I get really bored with all the pretentious reference numbers and silly names that the overpaid sales reps reel off and think so cool.

Is it only really river bed sand, cement and a particular polymer additive for the application intended or am I missing something?

Please advise . Thank you

rockmonkey
 
Re: Rockmonkey says Hi to all the dust Grafting Artisans on here in th

Hmmm interesting question which I await answers from the more experienced stone guys and girls.
 
Re: Rockmonkey says Hi to all the dust Grafting Artisans on here in th

Hi and welcome.....
 
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Evening Rockmonkey, no your not committing any crime by using sand and cement at all. Its a tried and tested method, and some of us prefer to use this, also if you've got large format stone or marble to lay, I think its better to steer away from sticky, due to the re-positioning problem you can get with adhesive. I will hold my hands up and say yes it is more time consuming, however its horses for courses.

Pebbs
 
Re: Rockmonkey says Hi to all the dust Grafting Artisans on here in th

Thanks for replying Pebbs. I was really thinking about the stickyness as I'm looking at a porcelain floor in a few days . The bottom line is to keep clients spending to keep the work going I must keep every cost down.
Don't laugh but the stickness in bagged products is sometimes made with protein. Could I mimic this with something? PVA works a treat and any plastersizer seems to give a nice workability as long as not too much to stop slumping.
What does Bal and the like use? Eggs, Body builders whey, Boiled horse bones?
 
Re: Rockmonkey says Hi to all the dust Grafting Artisans on here in th

Sbr would make it very sticky but keep your tools clean......
 
Re: Rockmonkey says Hi to all the dust Grafting Artisans on here in th

I remember typewriters before keyboards, logarithms before calculators and sand/cement before fast set flexible white adhesive.
With the price of Webber products now it has to be cost effective to move with the times and for Porcelain the low porosity demands an adhesive IMHO.
 

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