Tile Inspector / Expert Witness Needed - TilersForums.com

[HeyMacarenaAye]

I'm in a bind and I'm looking for the opinion of a qualified tiling inspector / expert witness with experience of 20mm large format outdoor porcelain tiles being installed incorrectly (i.e. as if they are regular pavers). Are you an expert witness, or can you recommend one? Please PM me. I'd like to understand my chances of success in court based on your/their prior cases.

I've tried the TTA. They want to charge me £1800 for a report but haven't indicated my chances of success. And I've tried an expert witness who contradicted some of what the TTA had to say about applicable British Standards. I've wasted £10k on a failing patio. I can't afford to gamble another £1800 without any indication of likely success.

Many thanks.

 

[Dumbo]

I'm in a bind and I'm looking for the opinion of a qualified tiling inspector / expert witness with experience of 20mm large format outdoor porcelain tiles being installed incorrectly (i.e. as if they are regular pavers). Are you an expert witness, or can you recommend one? Please PM me. I'd like to understand my chances of success in court based on your/their prior cases.

I've tried the TTA. They want to charge me £1800 for a report but haven't indicated my chances of success. And I've tried an expert witness who contradicted some of what the TTA had to say about applicable British Standards. I've wasted £10k on a failing patio. I can't afford to gamble another £1800 without any indication of likely success.

Many thanks.

Can you be a bit more specific about your problems , also a solicitor is most likely to give your best indication of success or not . Also be aware that if the party you are claiming against hasn't got the assetts or will to reimburse you they may just wind their company up .
Just as a disclaimer , I am not an expert on consumer law .

 

[Tile Fix Direct]

What were the tiles , where did they come from and how were they installed?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

What type of contractor did you employ?
Landscaper.
Builder.
Tiler.
Other.......

 

[Dougs Third Go]

pictures would help, highlighting the issues you have,

 

[Italy]

it seems that it is still the patio published a month ago.
if I'm not mistaken.

Poor external tiling... Next steps? - Tiling Advice

Hi all A driveway and patio contractor just laid my 56m2 patio using 1000x500x20 Italian porcelain tiles. It looks terrible, but the contractor says it's fine for a patio. The tile supplier and Larsen rep both took a look and agree that it's not fit for purpose. Both suggested a TTA inspection...

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[Dan]

Good memory or detective work there @antonio

 

[Italy]

Good memory or detective work there @antonio

Memory..... ... ... .. ....

 

[Concrete guy]

Try these people, they have a reputation in the landscaping world and have had an on line presence for some time.

Porcelain or Ceramic?

An attempt to resolve the confusion between porcelain, ceramic and vitrified pavings

www.pavingexpert.com

Reading between the lines here, you've employed landscapers to do a landscaping job and you're now looking for a tiler or tiling association representative to critique the work.

I'd be inclined, at least initially to keep it all under one umbrella. Get an expert witness from the landscaping world not the tiling world. It would be more appropriate and less open to suggestions of bias.

External vitrified paving (to give it it's correct name) is new to a lot of landscapers and it's becoming very popular, but many of them are not given the correct training or specification for fitting by the supplier.

To confuse things even further, most of what's sold as "porcelain" for external fitment isn't actually porcelain at all. The link above explains in more detail.

 

[Dan]

Coming from the potteries you'd think I understand that page but I bloody don't!

This is what should be used as the definition IMO.

There’s also a difference in the manufacturing process between true porcelain and some ceramics. True porcelain is (usually) a blend of white clay, selected fine sand and feldspar, fired once as a biscuit, whereas ceramics tend to use non-white clays with no feldspar, and will often have a glaze applied after an initial firing, and then be fired again to ‘set’ the glaze.

The above quote taken from the page ATS linked to.

 

[Dan]

Checkout this: Expert witness services in Fire, Structures and Environment | BRE Group - https://www.bregroup.com/services/expert-witness/

Not too sure if I'm late or not. But these guys are more independent to the tile industry than the tile association are. They have been used in way more cases in court than the tile association have. And their services could be cheaper too.