Pricing for mitre cuts

[trevortine]

Hi all, just in middle of pricing job for national museum toilet refurb, 400m2 all in, thing is amongst that is approx 114 linear meters of mitre joints, no trim allowed whatsoever. Would any of the contractors on here price extra for this or would you include in your m2 rate. I know things are tight at the moment and their are 5 contractors in for this work. Its a 200k refurb so funds are available but everyone will be desparate to win the job. I make it in excess of 600 mitre cuts and feel their should be additional charges. Tiles are a mixture of marble and porcelain, any thoughts appreciated.

 

[jay]

hi include in mtr rate i wouldnt note it as extra just up your mtr price to accomadate the extra work hope this makes sence:8:

 

[Time's Ran Out]

As per Jay - I'd include it in my sq mt price - which I would still be competitive with if I want the work, and make note 'to include mitred edges'!
If you have to show a price for the mitres as a seperate item - reduce the sq mt rate accordingly.
With so much competition you'll have to be keen.
If your talking 600 tiles to mitre that is a minimum of 3 days work ( based on 1 mitre=2 minutes ie 20hours + set up)

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Would they go for polished edges on marble? otherwise as above. Good luck

 

[Perry]

porcelain ain't that easy to mitre especially if they are say 600 x600 so bear that in mind

 

[heavytrevy]

My builder pays me for em.
Hence I do them instead of trim.
I also charge my customers as well.

Trev

 

[marbleman]

i would say thats a little bit under estimating the time if you have mitre to porcelain 2 minutes 600 run more like 5 mins if your lucky

 

[Time's Ran Out]

i would say thats a little bit under estimating the time if you have mitre to porcelain 2 minutes 600 run more like 5 mins if your lucky

The job is 114 linear metres of mitres - 600No.pieces of tile,
We are not privvy to the size of each tile but I have assumed that each piece is approx 40mm. (114x2 sides divided by 600pieces)
I would conclude that 2mins would be OK for mitring 40mm of tile edge!
But I may be unlucky and get the job and find I've underestimated - Oh its not my job!

 

[doug boardley]

if your mitre cuts are on the marble Dougie, I'd include it in the price, 'cos youre gonna have to wet cut the marble anyway

 

[marbleman]

Hi John
some porcelain on the market are very hard, and if its been used in a commercial project i am sure it will be the harder porcelain, i would hate to see a tiler come unstuck on a mitring price as he has under priced, used many machines for mitres and found most of the time it takes longer than you think.

 

[White Room]

I would charge a linear metre, if they change their mind it will help to adjust your price

 

[Stan001]

what about any higher wasteage rate ref chips etc?

 

[trevortine]

Cheers for all your replies guys, after much thought I put in a linear rate as well as m2 rate. Reason I done this is because it was marked as "extra over" in the tender. We should either find out this week or if not the start of year. If I'm succsessful I shall be looking to sub some work out to another tiler in the central belt, would be good to pass on work in this climate and would also help me out as there's a few bathrooms on the go for start of year. Fingers crossed!

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Trevortine - A bit confusing in your original thread that you ask if you should charge extra for mitring when the tender states - 'extra over' for mitres!
As my reply in no.3 keep it seperate in your pricing but reduce your fixing rate/m2 if you want to be competitive!
Full information is often the way to get accurate replies!
Its been fun!

 

[Dontiler]

I would try take a sample of tile and try cut it first before pricing so many meters, but I would charge per meter for sure, if it's porcelain then it is pain to cut it nice some tiles chip really easy if you try to cut closer to the edge