Everbuild SBR Bond as primer

[janzbro]

Hi, is this suitable to prime a bathroom plasterboard walls prior to tiling with 31 x 45 ceramic tiles.

I believe Dave first posted about this stuff

Also do I paint / roller this on over a tanked shower area?

Cheers :8:

 

[wetdec]

I wouldnt use it over tanking m8...................maybe before check the tanking supplier documentation

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[janzbro]

I thought all walls were to be primed prior to tiling

 

[DHTiling]

You prime before you tank not afterwards.... ...

SBR primer from everbuild is fine for priming....

And is available from tradetiler at a good price..

SBR Bonding/Admix agent - (Everbuild)

(Do not be tempted to use cheaper PVA which moisture breaks down)

SBR Bond is a latex based - Highly suited for priming areas before tiling

Water resistant bonding/priming agent and admixture for use in areas subject to humidity, dampness and continuous water contact

Improves water resistance of cement mixtures by forming a reinforcing polymer that increases long term durability and flexibility of the mix on renderings and floor screeds adhesive etc.

Can be diluted up to 3:1 with water - follow instuction on bottle


Size: 5 litre


Price: £11.99 £13.79 Including VAT at 15%

Tradetiler Tilers Silicone and tools

 

[pete f]

thats a very good price ill be getting mine from tradetiler ive paid double that price for it at trade for bal

 

[janzbro]

Found it at Joeseph Parr (Middlesbrough) for £10.95 or£12.59 Including VAT at 15% if anybody from the Teesside area is looking

Do I just paint / roller this on neat or does it need to be watered down

Would it be suitable for using as a primer before using Mapei Adesilex P9 Flexi Adhesive or would Mapei Primer G be better (same range) in a shower room onto plaster board fitting Ceramic tiles

 

[bighen]

It will be OK, but I like Mapei Primer G

Use it neat on plasterboard.

If you follow the following link you can follow the instructions

broken link removed

 

[Derwent999]

:welcome:

Hi everyone,
How long does Bal SRB Bond take to dry over Old Bitumen adhesive, also concrete and vinyl tiles.

Is it Best to give two coats of Bal SBR after the first has dryed.

Giving Floor Tiles, Concrete, Old Bitumen adhesive two coat of SBR will it take the floor Tiles better.

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[Perry]

you don't need to prime plaster board to tile it but check with adhesive technical dept

 

[Gazzer]

you shouldn't need to prime plasterboard what adhesive are you using check with there technical dept

I think BAL will say you do need to prime as they say the adhesive can migrate through the boards.

 

[Perry]

I think BAL will say you do need to prime as they say the adhesive can migrate through the boards.

bal are a profit making company they care more about making money than you or I

 

[brian c]

i agree with both of you.....they will always look for a way out.

 

[Peter]

I'm against priming plasterboard, almost seems like you're putting too much moisture into it.

 

[beanz]

I thought Plasterboard HAD to be primed if using a cement based addy because of Ettringite failure?

 

[Perry]

I thought Plasterboard HAD to be primed if using a cement based addy because of Ettringite failure?

you are tiling the paper not the plaster

 

[Derwent999]

:yikes:
Never did tiling before, just having a go mate.
Gave the bitumen a good neat coat of Bal SBR Bond, still a bit tacky, also were no bitumen on concrete also still tacky almost two days later, almost dry.

If I was to give Floor Vinyl Tiles, Concrete, Old Bitumen adhesive left over from removing tiles,two coats of SBR neat will it take the floor Tiles better.
Thanks Mate.
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[beanz]

you are tiling the paper not the plaster

Haha Very true! Is the paper enough to stop a reaction then? I really can't afford to be forgetting what little i do know!?!?! :lol:

 

[pete f]

never primed plasterboard never had a fail

 

[doug boardley]

:yikes:
Never did tiling before, just having a go mate.
Gave the bitumen a good neat coat of Bal SBR Bond, still a bit tacky, also were no bitumen on concrete also still tacky almost two days later, almost dry.

If I was to give Floor Vinyl Tiles, Concrete, Old Bitumen adhesive left over from removing tiles,two coats of SBR neat will it take the floor Tiles better.
Thanks Mate.
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where you wanting this post Derwent? it's in two threads now, I can delete one if you like

 

[b3nb123]

Sorry to bring up an ancient thread! But I'm about to tile a bar concrete floor and don't know whether I need to prime it or not. I happen to have some Everbuild 503 SBR left from a garden paving project, so when i found this thread I thought it could be handy to know if this would work?

Do I need to prime bare concrete (rough finished, not machined, and never been tiled on before, it's been laid a year but only just getting round to tiling)

If so, do I need to use it neat, dilute it, make a slurry with cement? And how long will it take to dry?

Thanks!

 

[Steve6690]

Yes, dilute it 1 part sbr :3 parts water and apply to the concrete with a brush or roller. You want it thin enough that it soaks in and doesn't sit on top and skin over. Let it dry and then tile away.
Clean any grease etc from the surface before applying.

 

[b3nb123]

Yes, dilute it 1 part sbr :3 parts water and apply to the concrete with a brush or roller. You want it thin enough that it soaks in and doesn't sit on top and skin over. Let it dry and then tile away.
Clean any grease etc from the surface before applying.

Thanks Steve, I'll do just that

 

[Keilyr]

Hey, tiling a painted wall in my living room. I’ve scrapped the paint off the best I can and scratched some lines into it before I prime it with SBR. Do I dilute the SBR before I prime the wall?

 

[Kevbos]

:yikes:
Never did tiling before, just having a go mate.
Gave the bitumen a good neat coat of Bal SBR Bond, still a bit tacky, also were no bitumen on concrete also still tacky almost two days later, almost dry.

If I was to give Floor Vinyl Tiles, Concrete, Old Bitumen adhesive left over from removing tiles,two coats of SBR neat will it take the floor Tiles better.
Thanks Mate.
T

Hey, tiling a painted wall in my living room. I’ve scrapped the paint off the best I can and scratched some lines into it before I prime it with SBR. Do I dilute the SBR before I prime the wall?

Really you need to get all paint off the walls for a job that any of us could even begin to say might last !unless you sticking paper Tiles to the primed paint surface . I know it's alot of work but some plaster or boards are not strong enough to hold certain weights of tiles !paint is never strong enough