25m2 estimate

[Marcotiles]

Hi all, any advice much appreciated.....

I'm trying to gauge my speed compared with more experienced tilers - I realise we can't compare prices in this part of the forum, and they would vary anyway in different parts of the country, but I would like to improve on my estimating for future jobs.

I've done a fair bit of tiling on smaller jobs or for myself as I'm a plumber. However I'm currently doing the wall tiling on a full 4 piece bathroom involving 25m2, which is a big job for me! I used gauges to mark out the room and batoned out. I'm happy (and the customer is!) with the quality of the work but I'm trying to gauge how fast - or slow I am!

overview of the job:

Tiles roughly 280x330mm (not got any here).
25m2
cuts round 2 sockets, extractor, cold pipe and electric outlet for electric shower, boxed in bath (but removable panel), and 3 sections of boxed in areas for waste/pipes.
3mm grouting
bottom row of tiles fitted seperatly to allow laminate floor to be layed(not my choice).

How long would people take on this sort of job please?

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

[Sean fsy]

well theres no trim used,even if the customer didnt want it i would strongly suggest it, specially as you have exposed tiles next to the door and washing machine. plus theres no way you have worked the cuts out, you have just set out with full tiles on the corners. plus the positioning of the black insert tiles is rediculous, as if you would put a small black ripped tile next to full white tiles around boxing in or little recesses in a wall. looks totally rushed and not very proffesional. my tip would have been not to return.

 

[diamondtiling]

well theres no trim used,even if the customer didnt want it i would strongly suggest it, specially as you have exposed tiles next to the door and washing machine. plus theres no way you have worked the cuts out, you have just set out with full tiles on the corners. plus the positioning of the black insert tiles is rediculous, as if you would put a small black ripped tile next to full white tiles around boxing in or little recesses in a wall. looks totally rushed and not very proffesional. my tip would have been not to return.

Oi Sean, enough please, there is no need for that at all and you are out of order pal. There are many different levels of competence on the forum and people learn all the time. Maybe you should learn punctuation and spelling.

:dizzy2:

 

[kilty55]

well theres no trim used,even if the customer didnt want it i would strongly suggest it, specially as you have exposed tiles next to the door and washing machine. plus theres no way you have worked the cuts out, you have just set out with full tiles on the corners. plus the positioning of the black insert tiles is rediculous, as if you would put a small black ripped tile next to full white tiles around boxing in or little recesses in a wall. looks totally rushed and not very proffesional. my tip would have been not to return.

sean,i think your being a bit harsh here,,3 photos all blurry isnt really fair to be slating this guy,,if the customer wanted no trim then thats that,,do u suggest he finished the corners with cut tiles with no trim as well?

 

[Scott]

Right my two pence worth.

Im a kitchen and bathrom fitter and have been for the last 9 years (self employed).

I started tiling long before that and since then got into plumbing etc.

I started a new bathroom today, like for like straight swop with 19 mts of ceramics and also laminate floor (like you not my choice!) Also gotta tack and skim the ceiling.

I anticipate being finished by Wednesday next week. I have allowed for starting the tiling on Wednesday (providing any skim i have to add will be dry enough)

19 mts will take me 4 days with soil pipe boxing, end of bath boxing and all reveals and header of window, that tile and grout btw.

Timing is only crucial to your price if they could get someone faster as it could potentially work out cheaper for them. However if you priced it per metre then it could just be you thats out of pocket at the end of it!

Im glad from this post that Sean takes a long time on the windows and its not just me! I go home sometimes and look and think i have only done a few metres!

I think this post just goes to show the speed difference between us all and by the time this thread is finished should show some good results.

Good luck with it

 

[brinkley]

ok sean ive been tiling for 12 years so sort of know what im doing and as i said its really the customers choice all i can do is try and advise them on the look

 

[Perry]

i fitted a quartz border tile last month and there is no way on this earth it would stop upright without the aid of a pin and spacers. the tiles were very heavy aswell and even after a day of drying the tiles were wanting to crush the border.i ended up battoning the required space and fitted the tiles above first. i was using mapei grip d1.

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Yes Sean what adhesive did you use on this ? you seam to get everyones back up its good to be neat but it isn't always what it looks like but the whole job that counts

 

[DHTiling]

well theres no trim used,even if the customer didnt want it i would strongly suggest it, specially as you have exposed tiles next to the door and washing machine. plus theres no way you have worked the cuts out, you have just set out with full tiles on the corners. plus the positioning of the black insert tiles is rediculous, as if you would put a small black ripped tile next to full white tiles around boxing in or little recesses in a wall. looks totally rushed and not very proffesional. my tip would have been not to return.

I think you are well out of order here... not particularly for your criticism of the work but your manner of attack at another member.

So before you next hit the enter key, i suggest you read what you type.

Some reading for you..>> Forum Rules

 

[Peter]

To be fair Sean, I don't know how you can judge any job from blurry photos.

 

[Scott]

Blimey! In the time i wrote my post all hell broke loose!

I reckon Brinkleys tiling is better than his photography (joke guys!)

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I have just re-read this post, and all I can add. After 43yrs tiling I still don't know every thing about the job. The reason for this I think is because I am humble, I have been called by my fellow tilers on many occasions. A nit picker, by others, a Master craftsman . I am niether. I simply do the best job I can. I do know the easiest job is to pick fault, without knowing the difficulties involved. I would not comment on my fellow tilers work, unless I was perfect. I know I will never be that. I'm Human.

 

[doug boardley]

well said "half a mill Phil"

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Thanks Doug, havn't been called that for a while:lol:

 

[Aston]

why dont you two just get a room.....:lol:
yeah and before you say it doug, yes, i am jealous...:lol:

 

[Scott]

Half a mill phil, lol thats a good un.

 

[doug boardley]

anyway, back to the thread.... I'd struggle to get it finished in 3 days, it'd be 4 days probably for me:smilewinkgrin:

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I used to be fast and rough, but lately I seem to have lost all my speed:lol: sorry folks, just trying to lighten things up. This forum is very helpfull to lots of people, we need to stick together

 

[Andy Allen]

i used to work for the council, so 2 days leaning on me level looking at, 1 day drinking tea and talking about it ;1 day sitting on the pan thinking about it; and 3 days tiling it

 

[doug boardley]

i used to work for the council, so 2 days leaning on me level looking at, 1 day drinking tea and talking about it ;1 day sitting on the pan thinking about it; and 3 days tiling it

and then another week filling out the job sheet in triplicate:lol:

 

[Scott]

i used to work for the council, so 2 days leaning on me level looking at, 1 day drinking tea and talking about it ;1 day sitting on the pan thinking about it; and 3 days tiling it

Plus a day to put you PPE gear on

 

[2Balls]

Hi, May be I´ve been here to long , why not leave the tilling to the "Tiler" and you concentrate with the plumbing. A good partnership,with other trades pays dividens!?

:8:2Balls

 

[Aston]

Hi, May be I´ve been here to long , why not leave the tilling to the "Tiler" and you concentrate with the plumbing. A good partnership,with other trades pays dividens!?

:8:2Balls

wise words 2 balls . it can be more efficient to do this imo!! you can only juggle so many balls without dropping one??