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[QUOTE="Deleted member 1779, post: 168864"] The issue with the Armeg system is that in order for it to work it relies on a carbide centre pilot at £28.50 each ([COLOR=DarkSlateGray]price source Screwfix[/COLOR]) A centre pilots serves no useful purpose for hole drilling, gets in the way, and yet need continuous cooling via a water jet. The advice from Armeg as to the best way to handle a pilot drill is actually to SPEED UP. I believe this advice flys in the face of the normal instinct when working with expensive marble, granite, porcelain to drill slowly and at steady careful speed so as not to lose control. Source of advice: "Armeg Rubbish" Post 12 [URL="http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-drilling-drill-tough-tiles-like/14343-armeg-rubbish.html"][COLOR=Gray]THIS IS THE DIRECT LINK TO THAT POST[/COLOR] [/URL]Reprinted below (not all the post is reproduced) [COLOR=DarkSlateGray]a) the [B]speed must be[/B] 700-900 r.pm. We have had drill bits sent back that have heavy scoring around the shanks. This indicates that the chuck of the power tool has not been tightened correctly and so speed of operation cannot be guaranteed. b) [B]a constant flow of water must be applied to the drill tip at all times[/B] during drilling. This is not massive volumes of water, a fine jet is sufficient from a pressure sprayer. c) in the hardest grades of porcelain, a fairly [B]firm pressure must be applied[/B] to keep the drill bit progressing through the tile. If the drill bit is allowed to "dwell" in the tile, not making progress, then wear can occur. [U]If it is taking you more than a few seconds to produce a hole then it is invariably due to the fact that [B]not enough pressure[/B] is being applied.[/U] [/COLOR] [B]OK so at 365drills we hold the opposite view to drilling holes into expensive material which is[/B] 1) Drill carefully using your own battery drill at any speed that suits you! Would you know if you were drilling at 700rpm? We wouldnt ! 2) Dont apply excessive pressure to the drills. Hang back. Its ok to dwell. No harm will come to either the drill or that luxury material. 3) Keep the drill bit cool by holding a wet sponge underneath. Diamond drills are quite forgiving so if you did accidently overheat the drill it will forgive you once or twice - but dont make a habit of it. In contrast Carbide burns out first time - game over. Operating the two systems requires different rules but in essence Armeg rely on a centre pilot which works best at a faster speed, requires pressure to work correctly, and must be kept cool with a constant running flow of water. Our system doesn't need the pilot in the first place (saving £28+) doesnt need a water cooler (saving £30 for the water container, and £20 for the arbour). Doesnt need to be run at high speed so giving you control of the drill site especially as you punch through expensive fitted tiles. Doesnt need a water stream saving you A) the effort in the first place of filling up the bucket, moving it, using it. B) Having used a secondary water system the additional effort of mopping up the jetted water. I accept there is a market for both systems. But I believe that the reason we sell thousands of these kits is because people do the math and work out the savings. Finally we are open book about our customer complaints and returns. If you want to see IN REAL TIME what professional installers, tilers and plumbers really think about 365Drills Porsadrill system [URL="http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=365drills&ftab=AllFeedback"]then do no more than click this feedback link.[/URL] [IMG]http://www.365drills.com/jpgs/br3a.jpg[/IMG] [B] We are NOT 98% Good. We are NOT 99.5% Good. We are NOT 99.9% Good. Not even 99.99999% Good. [/B] The customer (YOU) is king. And thats why we continue to bring you value for money. [/QUOTE]
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