Large Format - 2 Rooms Meeting At 22Deg Angle At Doorway

[Deleted member 59001]

Hi there,

I am looking for advice on tile layout for a new build.

We are putting 600mm x 600mm large format in the kitchen and running it out the hallway.
The kitchen is at a 22Deg to the hallway.

The edges of the tiles will not aligned at this angle and so i am looking for advice how best to have a nice seamless transition from the kitchen to the hall at the doorway. Images attached.

I am trying multiple offsets of the kitchen tile, while wanting to have the hallway tile central.

Grout is 1.5mm

Much appreciated for any advice

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Hoping somebody would have any suggestions or best practice ?

Many thanks,
Tom

 

[Dave]

Have you tried moving the bottom tile further back. Also you could insert a header to differentiate the two rooms.

 

[Richard2021]

Hoping somebody would have any suggestions or best practice ?

Many thanks,
Tom

Both tiles would need to be cut at the same angle ..... 11 deg. , for the grout lines to align

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Both tiles would need to be cut at the same angle ..... 11 deg. , for the grout lines to align

Thanks for that,

I’ll try that in CAD, see what it looks like

 

[TSCTILING]

Only way I can see is if you can set hallway so joint line is running middle of door opening, then use that joint line as a setting out point for main room, the joint would meet visually at the door opening but the joint line will be effectively changing to a diagonal bond which will run centered through room. Very hard to call without a scalable drawing

 

[parkerfresh]

Have you tried a continuous diamond pattern in cad, it’s hard to visualise but maybe worth a try?

 

[Richard2021]

Thanks for that,

I’ll try that in CAD, see what it looks like

Is there door to the hallway or is it open ? and how wide is the hallway ?

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Is there door to the hallway or is it open ? and how wide is the hallway ?

Hi there,

There will be a door separating the hallway from the kitchen/living space. Hallway is 1200 wide.

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Both tiles would need to be cut at the same angle ..... 11 deg. , for the grout lines to align

Hi Richard,

Just checked that and it should work out perfectly by splitting the angle.

Appreciate that 👍

 

[Richard2021]

Hi Richard,

Just checked that and it should work out perfectly by splitting the angle.

Appreciate that 👍

Glad it's worked out Tom . Does the angled grout line fall between the depth of the architraves ? If you're using a grout that closely matches the tile colour , the grout line not following the line of the door , shouldn't be that noticeable .

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Glad it's worked out Tom . Does the angled grout line fall between the depth of the architraves ? If you're using a grout that closely matches the tile colour , the grout line not following the line of the door , shouldn't be that noticeable .

Yes, i have it such that the angled grout line is within the door threshold, which is 350mm depth, as its a cavity wall.

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

Hoping somebody would have any suggestions or best practice ?

Many thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,

I have to pick you up on one issue on your plans: the minimum joint width on a tiled floor is a 4 mm grout joint. That is standard and of Building Regulations for Tiling.

I can assure you that 1.5 mm is FAR too limiting when it comes to fixing tiles. At best, even rectified Italian tiles of the highest quality and cost have a factory tolerance of 0.7mm. Add this difference over a floor with a 1.5 mm joint, no tiler has a prayer of staying true and square.

This was Building Regulations for Tiling when I qualified back in 2006 at least.

There are a lot of new house buyers right now with a lot of YouTube experience, and I welcome them to this forum.

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

Have you tried moving the bottom tile further back. Also you could insert a header to differentiate the two rooms.

Grout joint 1.5 mm?

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Hi Tom,

I have to pick you up on one issue on your plans: the minimum joint width on a tiled floor is a 4 mm grout joint. That is standard and of Building Regulations for Tiling.

I can assure you that 1.5 mm is FAR too limiting when it comes to fixing tiles. At best, even rectified Italian tiles of the highest quality and cost have a factory tolerance of 0.7mm. Add this difference over a floor with a 1.5 mm joint, no tiler has a prayer of staying true and square.

This was Building Regulations for Tiling when I qualified back in 2006 at least.

There are a lot of new house buyers right now with a lot of YouTube experience, and I welcome them to this forum.

Evening,

Appreciate that feedback and certainly something i will go back and look at.

As regards experience, with the exception of working with my father when he went tiling after he retired from the police and did that for 4/5 years. I am limited.

He was very particular and did great work, however, it was a very long time ago and technologies and house spec’s have moved on so much along with the increased size of the tile.

I have decent experience in the construction trade and have done a considerable amount of my new build myself, but because of all the change that has happened over the last decade or so, i would fall into the youtube category at the minute.

If you do see any further posts/threads from me, i’d welcome any comments

Thanks,
Tom

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

Evening,

Appreciate that feedback and certainly something i will go back and look at.

As regards experience, with the exception of working with my father when he went tiling after he retired from the police and did that for 4/5 years. I am limited.

He was very particular and did great work, however, it was a very long time ago and technologies and house spec’s have moved on so much along with the increased size of the tile.

I have decent experience in the construction trade and have done a considerable amount of my new build myself, but because of all the change that has happened over the last decade or so, i would fall into the youtube category at the minute.

If you do see any further posts/threads from me, i’d welcome any comments

Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply. I'll try and help you out if possible.
Tilers take exception to people, builders and DIYers who are sure they can/have tile/tiled as you've probably worked out?

 

[Dave]

Hi Tom,

I have to pick you up on one issue on your plans: the minimum joint width on a tiled floor is a 4 mm grout joint. That is standard and of Building Regulations for Tiling.

I can assure you that 1.5 mm is FAR too limiting when it comes to fixing tiles. At best, even rectified Italian tiles of the highest quality and cost have a factory tolerance of 0.7mm. Add this difference over a floor with a 1.5 mm joint, no tiler has a prayer of staying true and square.

This was Building Regulations for Tiling when I qualified back in 2006 at least.

There are a lot of new house buyers right now with a lot of YouTube experience, and I welcome them to this forum.

Minimum grout joint is 3mm not 4 on floors and it’s British standards not regulations if your going to be correcting everyone.

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Hi all,

So after a bit of time looking at this (pushed on by the fact the tiles were delivered ) I'm looking at doing the below as a solution.

Splitting the angle would give me a joint running 11Deg through the threshold at the door, which i didnt like.

The below option (three coloured tiles) at least retains a straight edge parallel with the door.

Anything i'm missing with this option ?

Thanks,
Tom

 

[Hobnob]

Hopefully the “yellow” tile isn’t a full tile from the back wall otherwise your plan will not work as it won’t be wide enough.

 

[Tiling_tom]

Hopefully the “yellow” tile isn’t a full tile from the back wall otherwise your plan will not work as it won’t be wide enough.

Well spotted,

We were probably going to run a different tile into that adjacent room, so the plan may still work.

But that is why i posted that picture, i did not catch that,

Much appreciated for that comment
Tom

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Thanks for reply Hobnob,

We will most likely run a different tile into the adjecent room.

But i did not spot that, so much appreciated for that reply.

Tom

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Just an update,

I decided to go with the attached layout.

It turned out really well.

I wanted the line from the kitchen to run through and the line from the hall to run through, hence the small triangle piece.

Its all completed and grouted now but this is the only pic i have at the minute.

 

[Ben-gee]

Well done, that’s a great result.

What are those tiles, out of interest?

 

[Deleted member 59001]

Well done, that’s a great result.

What are those tiles, out of interest?

Hi Ben-gee,

They are Urban Tiles Porcelain Rectified 600x600 (Geologica Tile)

 

[francesco]

Really nice idea and layout!

 

[SHIMADECOR-CARLOS]

Maybe you could put a rug in the middle，it's will look well