Adhesive for 9mm ceramic tiles?

[Davethefish]

i've always used BAL adhesives in a tub for any tiling i've done in the past.
apart from some large format porcelain floor tiles, which i used a fast setting cementious flexible adhesive.
but most places i look now have only mapei...

what adhesive would you recommend for 600 x 300 x 9mm ceramic tiles for walls and floor?
as they seem a bit hefty for a tub adhesive,
i'd prefer something that had a longer open time for a cementious adhesive as i'm not that fast a worker anymore lol!

 

[Dave]

Just to say , tubbed adhesive is not suitable for wall tiles bigger than 300 sqr and deffo not floor tiles. Mapei P9 is ok for ceramics on walls and floors if you need a slow set.

 

[Davethefish]

thanks,
the P9 looks good and not a bad price,
i've just kind of got used to trusting/using bal adhesive in the past.
so was thinking maybe the bal single part flexible?

is the P9 suitable for wooden flooring/over floor boards,
though i'd be laying a 6mm backer board down first. or just plastered walls/concrete floors?

 

[Dave]

thanks,
the P9 looks good and not a bad price,
i've just kind of got used to trusting/using bal adhesive in the past.
so was thinking maybe the bal single part flexible?

is the P9 suitable for wooden flooring/over floor boards,
though i'd be laying a 6mm backer board down first. or just plastered walls/concrete floors?

P9 isn’t suitable for timber. You need a flexible adhesive, Bal SPF will suffice.

 

[Davethefish]

Cheers,
is there any reason i should choose white or grey SPF for walls/ floor,
as the tiles are all light grey i was going to use grey on both?

 

[Dave]

If ceramic and white biscuit/bodied tiles. Use white adhesive.

 

[Davethefish]

Thanks again,
white adhesive it is then.
going to get some from CTD next week.

i picked the tiles up yesterday, and out of curiosity weighed a couple of them,
they are around 2.61kg each so kg/m2 is coming in at 14.58kg
and am thinking about using a 3mm spacer to give some play as they are not the most expensive tiles so will probably vary a bit...

 

[Dave]

Thanks again,
white adhesive it is then.
going to get some from CTD next week.

i picked the tiles up yesterday, and out of curiosity weighed a couple of them,
they are around 2.61kg each so kg/m2 is coming in at 14.58kg
and am thinking about using a 3mm spacer to give some play as they are not the most expensive tiles so will probably vary a bit...

Go 2mm. Better looking grout joint. 👍
Let us know how you get on , any questions pop back.

 

[philipio]

Would the Mapei P9 be suitable for tiling 6.5mm bevelled metro tiles into a shower enclosure? The corner being tiled has been lined with Abacus Elements tile backer boards so that's the substrate being tiled onto. As a novice tiler, I'll need a standard set adhesive as I'll be working very slowly.

 

[Dave]

Would the Mapei P9 be suitable for tiling 6.5mm bevelled metro tiles into a shower enclosure? The corner being tiled has been lined with Abacus Elements tile backer boards so that's the substrate being tiled onto. As a novice tiler, I'll need a standard set adhesive as I'll be working very slowly.

Yes 👍

 

[philipio]

Thanks Dave. I really appreciate the reply. Any further tips I should be aware of with this kind of tile? I'm particularly concerned about the open cut edges. They'll be laid in brick bond and I'll tile right up to the ceiling with the shower enclosure to a projection along the 2 shower corner walls of about 850mm from the shower corner. The rest of the walls will be half tiled. So that will leave open edges on the 2 x 850mm projection parts if that makes sense. Should I lay it out such that the tiles which form the edges that run into the shower corner itself, and those at the other end of the projection are ALWAYS cut, so that they have a uniform thickness at those edges? Then use an 8mm tile trim to finish it off? I'm just concerned that if I don't do something of this kind, the edges will finish with alternate full thickness cut tile ends, and bevel edged tile ends which will be different thicknesses and will look odd when a trim is added to that scenario. Hope this makes sense and I guess the same question applies which tiling these into ANY corner. Thanks again.

 

[Dave]

It can’t be avoided tbh. So use a flat edge trim. That’s bevelled edge tiles for ya.

 

[philipio]

Thanks again Dave. I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers.

 

[Dave]

Thanks again Dave. I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers.

Plz do. Oh and we love pics 😁

 

[philipio]

Plz do. Oh and we love pics 😁

Well I finally plucked up the courage to complete the tiling and even if I say it myself, I think I did ok. Now only have the grouting to do. Is there a recommended white grout to use in a shower area alongside the Mapei P9 adhesive I've used? I was looking at BAL Micromax 2 which seems to be a general multi use grout. Or is there something more water resistant? Will post a picture once I've completed the grouting and the floor tiles

 

[Dave]

Well I finally plucked up the courage to complete the tiling and even if I say it myself, I think I did ok. Now only have the grouting to do. Is there a recommended white grout to use in a shower area alongside the Mapei P9 adhesive I've used? I was looking at BAL Micromax 2 which seems to be a general multi use grout. Or is there something more water resistant? Will post a picture once I've completed the grouting and the floor tiles

That grout will be fine. 👍

 

[philipio]

That grout will be fine. 👍

Hi Dave. I finally finished this job in between watching grandkids and trying to keep up with the overgrowing garden. I just wanted to say thanks for all the previous advice and post some pictures as promised. Do let me know what you think - good or bad - we're always learning! I really enjoyed this project as I was quoted between 5000 and 6800 for the refit when I was still in work last year. When I was made redundant, I decided to do it myself and completed it for between 2800-3000 quid (not sure exactly as all those 5 or 6 quids at Screwfix soon mount up). Anyway thanks again mate. All the help was much appreciated.

 

[Dave]

Hi Dave. I finally finished this job in between watching grandkids and trying to keep up with the overgrowing garden. I just wanted to say thanks for all the previous advice and post some pictures as promised. Do let me know what you think - good or bad - we're always learning! I really enjoyed this project as I was quoted between 5000 and 6800 for the refit when I was still in work last year. When I was made redundant, I decided to do it myself and completed it for between 2800-3000 quid (not sure exactly as all those 5 or 6 quids at Screwfix soon mount up). Anyway thanks again mate. All the help was much appreciated.

Looks the biz that. We’ll done 👍