Would you bother with 2 mats?

[Dumbo]

Which brand do you use?

I use palace chemicals . But before you all scoff may be you should try it . I will take over a lot of other levellers by choice not just based on price . I have been using it for about ten years and never had an issue .

 

[Flintstone]

Here's me paying double that for tilemaster

 

[Flintstone]

@Uheat - Jake can you tell me a bit more about the system, what wattage per m can you run it at with various spacing ? Is it compatable with warm a warm up stat ?

 

[Flintstone]

Also, can you use slc over that system ?

 

[Dumbo]

Also, can you use slc over that system ?

I put slc over the dural system . I just find it easier and also you must get a better flow around heating cable .

 

[Kyle Knowles]

Try the forum sponsors Uheat. Their variopro system came in under 50% of Ditra Heat price and I get good schluter prices.
Don't forget that the time you save installing these, is profit made.

Dural make an equivalent mat and I buy sunstone ufh from.my suppliers it's the warmup trade line I've just started doin all my ufh jobs with this method it's miles better then them mats

 

[Flintstone]

Dural make an equivalent mat and I buy sunstone ufh from.my suppliers it's the warmup trade line I've just started doin all my ufh jobs with this method it's miles better then them mats

I bet it's not comparable in price to the u heat kits? I'm really supprised by there prices.

 

[macten]

Thanks Jake for the quote.
I'll be using your system for this job and I'll update with pics as it progresses but it's going to take a while as its my parents' conservatory and I'm booked up till Nov so just the odd day here and there. It will get done and be all commissioned for xmas day is all I can promise them!

 

[macten]

My folks have just had a proper roof put on the conservatory that my dad built 30 years ago. They were toying with the idea of new tiles and UFH. They've seen Trav they like hence the decoupling system. I knew my dad would never commit so I went round after work with an SDS and said I'll have all the quarries he fixed when I was a kid up in an hour. 3 hours later - not even 1/2 way. My dad couldn't remember (he used a Wickes 'how to' guide to tiling) but he must have laid a 2nd screed over the original slab and then tiled. Quarries are coming off in bloody layers and although the 2nd screed came up really well where I started,
it's now as bad as the tiles.
Good thing though is the slab is in great condition and when it's all up there will be plenty of room for 20mm insulation boards.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Bet your their favourite son!

 

[Uheat - Jake]

@Uheat - Jake can you tell me a bit more about the system, what wattage per m can you run it at with various spacing ? Is it compatable with warm a warm up stat ?

With our heatbase your looking at 160w/m2 at 2 spacings and 100w/m2 with 3 spacings. It can also be self levelling as we recommend to fill all the spare gaps with either tile adhesive or SLC.

 

[Kyle Knowles]

I bet it's not comparable in price to the u heat kits? I'm really supprised by there prices.

I've not compared prices where's the best place to go for a price are they a forum sponsor ?

 

[Uheat - Jake]

I've not compared prices where's the best place to go for a price are they a forum sponsor ?

Kyle, give me a call when you've got a few minutes free.
01394 593305

 

[macten]

Another question... obviously cables aren't laid under permanent structures but what about conservatory furniture like sofa and chairs? Most of the time they'll stay put but will be moved on occasion.

 

[Uheat - Jake]

Another question... obviously cables aren't laid under permanent structures but what about conservatory furniture like sofa and chairs? Most of the time they'll stay put but will be moved on occasion.

If it's on legs then it's okay, however if it's a fixed cabinet which won't allow air to circulate underneath then no.

 

[macten]

Floor finally up and it's nearly filled a 4 yard skip!


Base slab primed


Got to hit it with a load of leveller! Slab is in good knick with no cracks but really rough in places and the whole floor slopes down from the bay area to the house by 25mm. 20mm thermal boards isn't an option now so will go for 10mm. Went round
after work to set datum dots and my Dad is going to do the rails in sand and cement tomorrow. 4 bays - perimeter and halved with a small bay near the exterior door to level last on my way out.


The final finished floor height (even with 10mm boards) will be above the pvc step but I have got a plan to sort that out.

 

[macten]

Floor levelled and ready for boards and heatbase when ever that will be.











My Dads first attempt at the rails failed after they started collapsing and blowing away when he opened the door to show me what a neat job he'd done. He thought the mortar mix was predosed and had to just add water and was surprised it wasn't solid after a couple of years in his shed. Told him to go get some new stuff but he's a bit of a womble and forgotten he must have used the cement dose years ago for something else. So his first attempt was basically playing with sand

 

[Flintstone]

Great job on the levelling, how did he make the barriers just a trowel? Are you a professional tiler ?

 

[One Day]

"He's a bit of a womble..."!

 

[Dumbo]

Great job on the levelling, how did he make the barriers just a trowel? Are you a professional tiler ?

I know a couple of brothers that have tiled in Germany and apparently they stick down strips of plaster board with rapid set.

 

[macten]

Great job on the levelling, how did he make the barriers just a trowel?

Just dump some sand/cement between the dots and press down with a wet straight edge, cut excess off sides and slide off. I learnt this technique off Phil Hobson on this forum. Best thing about it is you know it will be perfect and doing it in bays means you can take on any bad floor any size on your own. Even better than that is you're not rushing and stressing when you're doing it.

 

[macten]

Are you a professional tiler ?

Cheeky bugger!

 

[macten]

Had today free to finally get back to my mum and dads with the hope of tiling at some point next week.
Fitted the insulation boards and heat base mat.











Hopefully my sparky mate will be free to help me tomorrow so I can get the cable laid and SLC.
My Dad, being my Dad, doesn't want surface mounted cables like they did when he had the alarm fitted (I'm sure that install is illegal as the wire looks far too thin for the ring main) and he doesn't want the hassle of the other side of the wall chased - fair enough it's wall papered. Think the only way he'll be happy is if we have the spur, thermostat and fan/light switch in a row. So drilled a brick out in the hope that my sparky will be able to feed the cables through the cavity, do his thing and make it all work.

 

[macten]

Got cable down this afternoon and slc'd.
Sparky had to disconnect alarm company's work as it was dangerous.

 

[Qwerty]

Looking good! What SLC did you use?

 

[macten]

Weber floor flex.

 

[Uheat - Jake]

Great to see another happy customer converted to our HeatBase system! How did you find it to use? And what do you think to the quality of our cable?

 

[macten]

Was really easy to use Jake and so much less faffing than cutting mesh and turning bits of mat. Suppose the only worry I had was 'what if there's too much cable? I'd be screwed' but I sent you a plan and you said 165m would be fine and it was. My sparky fits a lot of eUFH but he'd not seen this kit before and he was well impressed. I've passed on Uheats details to him. Do I need the final invoice for the warranty Jake? I've only got the delivery receipt and a revised quote.

Went round today to set out and familiarise myself with the tiles and pattern they wanted and I ended up dry laying the lot.
So just need a couple of days free to stick'em and grout.

 

[Uheat - Jake]

Was really easy to use Jake and so much less faffing than cutting mesh and turning bits of mat. Suppose the only worry I had was 'what if there's too much cable? I'd be screwed' but I sent you a plan and you said 165m would be fine and it was. My sparky fits a lot of eUFH but he'd not seen this kit before and he was well impressed. I've passed on Uheats details to him. Do I need the final invoice for the warranty Jake? I've only got the delivery receipt and a revised quote.

Good to hear, as long as I have the warranty cards returned that'll be fine.

 

[Lou]

Don't mind me while I bump up some older but good threads. If you can contribute to the thread, go ahead. But if it's nothing for you then don't reply and it'll soon drop off the What's New page etc.
Worth linking to our new forum structure while I'm doing stuff:-

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