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SpItal_Jeff

I got a professional top tile my wetroom because I was scared of making a mistake.

After he left it occurred to me that he never fit the frame for the drain cover.

The shower tray has a linear drain with a stainless frame that should have been screwed in place and tiled up to. Now some tiles are too far back and some are obstructing the installation of the frame.

I need to remove the tiles surrounding the drain, install the frame and retile up to it.

My fear is that the floor has been tanked and the drain portion of the tray is plastic.

Is it possible to remove these tiles without damaging the tray or am I looking at taking up the entire floor and starting again?

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SpItal_Jeff

Slightly bigger photo.

My question isn't if I should get him back. ...of course I should. However as he has been paid for the floor before I noticed the mistake, time will tell if he returns.

My question is CAN IT BE FIXED? Can the tiles stuttering the drain be lifted without damaging the tray or the plastic drain? Obviously if the integrity of the tray is compromised the only solution I can see is to lift the floor replace the tray and start again. I'd obviously like to avoid this

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SpItal_Jeff

impish said:
Oh dear oh dear. Not a professional that's for sure.
You won't know if the waterproofing even exists unless you take a tile up.
It's not done anywhere near properly so get him back!
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I did the waterproofing so I know it exists. That isn't the question.

THE TILES SURROUNDING THE DRAIN NEED TO BE REMOVED. CAN THIS BE DONE WITHOUT DAMAGING THE TRAY? HOW?
 
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SpItal_Jeff

impish said:
Take out the insert and carefully chisel then up.
To be frank, the job is so terrible I imagine they'll come up easily and that there is no effective waterproofing underneath anyway.
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I did the waterproofing so I know it's there.

The stainless insert is just sitting on top. The plastic drain is an integral part of the shower tray and can't be removed or damaged.
 
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SpItal_Jeff

timeless john said:
Capitals now - someone is getting annoyed!
Remember we don't charge for advice and we have to know a bit of the background - allow us to enjoy the moment.
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I know, but I just want to know if it can be fixed and about 15 posts in ams everyone telling me how bad it is no one is sayin yes it can or no it can't. Forums quite often seem to go off on a tangent away from the original problem specifics.
 
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SpItal_Jeff

impish said:
I can only offer my advice if you tell us what tray it is, and what you used to waterproof it?
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Thanks. I don't know the make. It was a German made tasty from Wirral Bathrooms and Wetrooms, Merseyside Bathrooms & Wetrooms, Wirral Wet Rooms Design, Cheshire Wetrooms & Bathrooms, Liverpool - http://www.bathroomsandwetrooms.co.uk/. It is 1200x900 with a linear drain. The floorboards where covered with wet boards, I taped all seams, and painted a rubberized compound over the whole thing.

I tanked it but didn't risk tiling it in case I made a mistake. ...now I'm afraid I suspect it's all got to come up.

This is the waterproofing compound.

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One Day

You've used a quality tanking solution, there's a good chance though that taking up the tiles could tear it from the tray. If you work methodically and clean the adhesive residues away carefully, you could reapply any that gets damaged. Not ideal but short of a full rip up, that's what I'd do.
Without the tray brand I can't comment on its suitability though.
Most wet trays are inherently waterproof, but cheaper ones tend to need extra attention to the tray/waste junction.
 
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SpItal_Jeff

impish said:
You've used a quality tanking solution, there's a good chance though that taking up the tiles could tear it from the tray. If you work methodically and clean the adhesive residues away carefully, you could reapply any that gets damaged. Not ideal but short of a full rip up, that's what I'd do.
Without the tray brand I can't comment on its suitability though.
Most wet trays are inherently waterproof, but cheaper ones tend to need extra attention to the tray/waste junction.
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Thanks. It was an expensive tray. I'm always aware or using the cheapest materials and didn't want to for this job. I think the tray was about £200.

I'm obviously going to ask him back. If he's honorable he'll come and fix it. If not be will know it's likely a tear up job and will disappear. I'll know if he replies to me after the long weekend.

If not all I can do is name him.

I suspect it's going to need to be taken up. I'm just annoyed because I thought I was getting a professional to avoid mistakes line this in such a delicate job. It's an old house and I can't risk leaks because wet rot can easily take hold
 
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One Day

SpItal_Jeff said:
Thanks. It was an expensive tray. I'm always aware or using the cheapest materials and didn't want to for this job. I think the tray was about £200.

I'm obviously going to ask him back. If he's honorable he'll come and fix it. If not be will know it's likely a tear up job and will disappear. I'll know if he replies to me after the long weekend.

If not all I can do is name him.

I suspect it's going to need to be taken up. I'm just annoyed because I thought I was getting a professional to avoid mistakes line this in such a delicate job. It's an old house and I can't risk leaks because wet rot can easily take hold
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If it comes down to it, I can give you the number of a guy near you who would do it well. Victorian floors and wet rooms, he works with me and I with him occasionally....
 
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Localtiler said:
It looks like a bad job from start to finish to me, get it up. I don't think you'll get very far on here with your attitude either, no need.
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So your suggesting get it up and start over? That would cost about £1000 worth tiles, wet boards, shower tray, tape, etc.

Apart from around the drain I don't think it's any worse than I've seen anyone else do.
 
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SpItal_Jeff said:
So your suggesting get it up and start over? That would cost about £1000 worth tiles, wet boards, shower tray, tape, etc.

Apart from around the drain I don't think it's any worse than I've seen anyone else do.
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I'll be honest with you, from what I can see, the tiling is poor. I don't know about the prep but wet rooms have to be spot on as you know. It depends if you want a 'hopefully it will be ok' job, or a start again get it right and have no worries job.
 
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One Day

SpItal_Jeff said:
What's his number? I still need someone to do the walls regardless of the decision here. Not sure I want to use this guy anyway because we are using original style tiles.
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Like me, and most on here, he'd only do it from scratch I'm afraid. It's horrible picking up after a job starts badly. If you go down the full route, pm me and I'll pass his details on.
 
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