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Better to fix it now or it might forever bother you
I'm not sure how you know he's dot dabbing? Or not used an SBR?
No sign of any adhesive on the wall outside of the tiles fixed ie the wall has not been spread with a notched trowel bed of adhesive.
I want to herringbone my shower with 7.5cm x 30cm tiles but my tiler (experienced and trusted as through our builder who he works for a lot) says that this can't be done.
Explanation is that 4 x 7.5 = 30 but this doesn't take into account the spacing for grout. So after laying a certain number of tiles they won't line up properly as one of the gaps will get gradually wider.
Source URL: Help Needed With Herringbone - https://www.tilersforums.com/threads/help-needed-with-herringbone.97647/
Can anyone help?
In order for herring bone to work
the long dimension needs to be ( as the case of tiles being twice as long as wide) multiples of the short dimension plus the joint size.
The length of long side will determine the joint size.
I was doing a kitchen, dining area (450 sg.ft.).
The tiles were 6”x 48” (nominal) and the joint would need to be about 3/16”+.
The home owner would not accept that and wanted a 1/8” joint.
She asked me what could be done to make it work.
I told her the tiles would need to be cut down on the long side about 5/8”
(the tile had rectified edge so that was not a problem).
She said go ahead. I spent two days cutting down 225 tiles, and she was complaing about cost over runs!
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JordanLincs
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LauraDean
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I thought so... hmmmm I guess he will have to fix it...?!
LauraDean
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Well I have no clue about this stuff and even I thought that’s what you do... I don’t understand why he’s not followed the wall round! Thanks for your help, I didn’t want to challenge him without confirmation I’m right
JordanLincs
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Better to fix it now or it might forever bother you
LauraDean
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Thank you, we thought as much but didn’t want to complain without a professional opinion. He’s also taken a week to do 1/2 the job he’d said would take 2-3 days, so our life is on hold whilst he’s been unreliable and not showing up when he said! Nightmare
JordanLincs
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JordanLincs
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I'm not sure how you know he's dot dabbing? Or not used an SBR?
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Time's Ran Out
No sign of any adhesive on the wall outside of the tiles fixed ie the wall has not been spread with a notched trowel bed of adhesive.
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One Day
I'd suggest that it takes a very high level of experience and skill to make herringbone work anywhere - especially in a bathroom and around windows (see Finlay's pic above for a nice example).
It's glaringly obvious that the "tiler" you have is totally out of his depth with this.
Better to stop now.
It's glaringly obvious that the "tiler" you have is totally out of his depth with this.
Better to stop now.
I read this post a couple of weeks ago and thought to myself.........I am so lucky nobody (in 11 years) has asked me to do a herringbone pattern.
Last week a builder asked me to make contact with one of his customers because they wanted herringbone pattern in their kitchen
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I did contact the customer and told them I have never done herringbone and I did not fancy doing their job. Especially in a kitchen and cutting around corners and sockets etc. I did apologise that I had to turn their job down. A couple of days later they rang to book me in for a brickbond pattern.
Am I a wuss?
Last week a builder asked me to make contact with one of his customers because they wanted herringbone pattern in their kitchen
.I did contact the customer and told them I have never done herringbone and I did not fancy doing their job. Especially in a kitchen and cutting around corners and sockets etc. I did apologise that I had to turn their job down. A couple of days later they rang to book me in for a brickbond pattern
.Am I a wuss?
C
Concrete guy
I also never used to do kitchen splash backs on the diamond when there were window sills and multiple sockets. It wasn't that I wasn't capable. In most cases the customers simply didn't grasp how much longer it would take than regular brickbond or 100mm squares. Especially when they wanted the sills and returns mitred and wrapped around.
Lovely work👍What about the sill..was it not possible to continue the Herringbone onto it. Only reason I ask is because I mocked up a wall with a shower niche over christmas and had a play but when it came to wrapping around the internals of the niche I had to give up as was on it for days but just couldn't get the grout lines to match up.
Hi - can you tell me what size tiles you were using here?
I want to herringbone my shower with 7.5cm x 30cm tiles but my tiler (experienced and trusted as through our builder who he works for a lot) says that this can't be done.
Explanation is that 4 x 7.5 = 30 but this doesn't take into account the spacing for grout. So after laying a certain number of tiles they won't line up properly as one of the gaps will get gradually wider.
Source URL: Help Needed With Herringbone - https://www.tilersforums.com/threads/help-needed-with-herringbone.97647/
Can anyone help?
In order for herring bone to work
the long dimension needs to be ( as the case of tiles being twice as long as wide) multiples of the short dimension plus the joint size.
The length of long side will determine the joint size.
I was doing a kitchen, dining area (450 sg.ft.).
The tiles were 6”x 48” (nominal) and the joint would need to be about 3/16”+.
The home owner would not accept that and wanted a 1/8” joint.
She asked me what could be done to make it work.
I told her the tiles would need to be cut down on the long side about 5/8”
(the tile had rectified edge so that was not a problem).
She said go ahead. I spent two days cutting down 225 tiles, and she was complaing about cost over runs!
Hi Lauradene, the tiles no matter what pattern is being used should look like the tiles are being "bent" around the corner. The tiles that have been fixed thus far just do not give that impression. In my professional opinion these have not been fixed right. I would ask your tiler to stop before he goes any further. The 2 parts of the tile should more or less make up one tile. This is hardly ever exact but the pattern so far is so obviously wrong. You are right to be concerned!
T
TKD Tiling
Always wrap herringbone around corners, always... just looks incorrect otherwise, it makes such a difference.
As for length and width dimensions of tiles defining whether or not herringbone can be done, that’s only the case when doing 90degree/vertical herringbone, as you see the grout lines wander out of level. On 45degrees your eye doesn’t see that
As for length and width dimensions of tiles defining whether or not herringbone can be done, that’s only the case when doing 90degree/vertical herringbone, as you see the grout lines wander out of level. On 45degrees your eye doesn’t see that
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