Public Thread!: Poor Tiling Workmanship by DIY and Rogue Traders

[Dan]

Public Thread!: Poor Tiling Workmanship by DIY and Rogue Traders

This is a public thread. So please do NOT include personal information of who's done the job, where it's been done, etc. Only include information related to the workmanship. What's been done wrong, what should have been done, how the repair has gone on, etc.
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[Andy Rhodes]

Obviously went to the ACME college of building with that statement & Elmer Fudd was his tutor

 

[Dumbo]

Again, tiles must be faulty because they have cracked in 5 months of installation.

Few emails later getting the fitters method statement.

No, they have cracks because your "professional bathroom fitter" (turns out he's a general builder) has tiled a shower, without tanking, onto plywood!
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Waiting for further images when the tiles are taken down.... or fall off!

EDIT: Exact reply from the builder:
"Your bathroom hasn’t been tanked, nor does it need to be, it’s not a wet room, we have used 18mm marine ply as a base, screwed in every 6 inches with 40mm wood screws, flexible adhesive (Mapai)

Flexible grout (mapai), corners and joints have been sealed with dowsil 791 flexible translucent silicone before application of adhesive, we used a 6mm notched trowel."

What about the one at the bottom that doesn't want to be attached to wall anymore , is that faulty too because it hasn't stuck .

 

[J Sid]

like to see the receipt for the marine ply

 

[Dumbo]

like to see the receipt for the marine ply

Yes wpb at most or whatever they call it nowadays

 

[Tile Shop]

What about the one at the bottom that doesn't want to be attached to wall anymore , is that faulty too because it hasn't stuck .

I guess it must be. Better get in touch with the factory and tell them to stop making tiles as an issue has been spotted by a builder. She has 5 more like that dotted around the base that she hasn't sent photos of. I've told her it should be condemned on safety grounds and there is no fix other than a full rebuild of the cubicle. Strangely enough, still not had any response from her or the builder yet.

As for marine ply or WPB, these days that don't mean shi....taki mushrooms. Wood + Water = Pop. Plain and simple. They haven't removed it from the standards for no reason.

 

[LM]

 

[Andy Rhodes]

Morning all
remember what was said regarding tiling on plywood.
One of my students was asking about why we use SBR & Acrylic primers instead of PVA so as i always confuse the the wording with SBR they googled it underneath the quote below these were a couple of the questions there.
SBR Bonding Agent. Construction Chemicals SBR is a white styrene butadiene co-polymer used to improve the properties of cement renders, screeds and mortars. Itis also used in conjunction with Construction Chemicals Tanking Slurry as a priming coat or tight render base coat.
Can you tile on plywood wall?
Can I Tile to Plywood on a Wall? While some types of plywood can be used in certain types of tile installations, use of the material has limitations. ... For wall installations, your real concerns are whether you want to use thin set directly on the wood and whether you are using an exterior or interior type of plywood.
Do I need to prime plywood before tiling?
The plywood surface will then be the surface to be tiled. ... So your nice new clean ply floor isn't so clean anymore and if it's not prepared properly prior to tiling, the adhesive will just go onto the dirt on the floor and might not stick! This is why it is better to prime it than not to

 

[Qwerty]

What's the relevance of all the bold words?

 

[One Day]

What's the relevance of all the bold words?

He's a big ogre.
They shout a lot?

 

[Andy Rhodes]

No relevance it's how it cut & pasted off the Google sorry ,& have you been talking to the wife because that's what she says I shout a lot

 

[On one]

An Oyster slate floor tile laid on a very weak sandy mortar on a very flimsy polythene (not your DPM type) on top of ....cork
I kid you not!

 

[On one]

Same job, same builders bodge. Plastic uncoupling membrane???

 

[Andy Rhodes]

Shortest expansion joint I've ever seen

 

[WetSaw]

To be honest you've put far too many pictures.

 

[Old Mod]

To be honest you've put far too many pictures.

Didn’t realise they’d all be posted Paul to be honest, thought it was a link to off site album, gonna try resolve it mate.

 

[snackeroo]

Didn’t realise they’d all be posted Paul to be honest, thought it was a link to off site album, gonna try resolve it mate.

Really sorry about that. I will do it again.

 

[Old Mod]

Really sorry about that. I will do it again.

Absolutely no reason to apologise at all, you’re a new member that’s the only excuse you need.

 

[snackeroo]

Absolutely no reason to apologise at all, you’re a new member that’s the only excuse you need.

I am really out of sorts here. I only see things like text colour, font, font size, insert image clickables and have to place http address. I would rather PM you, but I don't see 'reply' in the PM you sent

 

[Old Mod]

I am really out of sorts here. I only see things like text colour, font, font size, insert image clickables and have to place http address. I would rather PM you, but I don't see 'reply' in the PM you sent

Do you see this?


Should be txt box below my message.

 

[Old Mod]

I am really out of sorts here. I only see things like text colour, font, font size, insert image clickables and have to place http address. I would rather PM you, but I don't see 'reply' in the PM you sent

Ahhh that’s within txt box yes? Look below box you should see ‘attach files’ icon. It’s alongside ‘post reply’ use that to add images, not one within box.

 

[snackeroo]

I see the post reply and preview buttons, but the attach files button is not visible.

 

[WetSaw]

 

[snackeroo]

 

[Old Mod]

Ahhh ok, maybe there’s a restriction on new members currently.
Unfortunately for you, we’ve just changed forum platforms today and everything is brand new and we’re trying to iron out bugs.
See what I can do.
Bear with me please.

@Dan

 

[Old Mod]

Did you reply to original email when confirming acc?
Your profile says we’re still awaiting email confirmation.

 

[Old Mod]

What about now @snackeroo?

 

[snackeroo]

Been having bathroom installed. Have posted some photos of the standard of tiling, where I have notice some problems. Wavy tiles, spacing seems to be different from one tile to another, trim doesn't seem flush and the walls are not flat with tiles bulging.

 

[snackeroo]

What about now @snackeroo?

Still not visible. I hope my workaround will be ok. I just host them and paste the links which show up as images.

 

[snackeroo]

Here are a few with tiles and trim:

 

[snackeroo]

Ahhh ok, maybe there’s a restriction on new members currently.
Unfortunately for you, we’ve just changed forum platforms today and everything is brand new and we’re trying to iron out bugs.
See what I can do.
Bear with me please.

@Dan

I understand. Lovely looking website. I have managed a 'workaround'