Is the slow down affecting you.?.

[gizmo]

if anyone near York and struggling for work PM me as i might be able to put some work your way,

 

[silver]

Hi Dave
Out of curiosity ?
the busy is almost the same as the quiet
from the votes...are there any regional trends ?

 

[P'boro tiler]

i did the 1 week bal course. I dont mind people slating me because at the end of the day theres many tilers out there who started out with no training or experience

 

[BDS]

i did the 1 week bal course. I dont mind people slating me because at the end of the day theres many tilers out there who started out with no training or experience

No one will slate you on here mate but what you`ve got to appreciate is some of these guys have done this trade for donkeys years or are time served and know all the tricks/correct methods and products etc etc etc etc,and believe me i`m still learning new stuff daily even after 18 months in the trade coures are ok they teach you the basics but thats it and i know that from doing one myself,the day you stop listening/learning and taking advice from the old guys :lol::lol: only joking guys,then its time to either retire or start a new job

 

[White Room]

The jobs you do stoneman are far bigger then a newbie would concider. Most start on the lower end of the domestic scene which you would'nt entertain

 

[Sully]

You wanna get respect, do 4 years getting kicked up the arse and smacked up the back of your head for £10 a week. No offence meant.[/quote]


And what exactly did you learn during the 4 years from this kicking up the arse exercise that makes you a better tiler than Jimmy new van?

In my humble and limited experience, IF you offer quality work, you should never have any fears of being undercut by a lesser tiler and certainly shouldn't need to be scraping around the 'price comes first' end of the market. If you are scraping around fighting for work from the undercutters, than maybe a few more kicks in the arse are appropriate.

No offence meant of course

Andrew

 

[P'boro tiler]

hmmmm

anything i say will annoy somebody.

about a year and a half ago i was determined to be a great tiler and thought id try and do an apprentiship. Now theres no college within a hundred miles of me that does one. So i thought id try and work along side somebody; but every tiler said stuff like "why the heck would you want to be a tiler its a **** job etc". So believe me I tried to do things the traditional way. The tilers I spoke to obviously didnt want anymore competition.
...But then i found out that one of the best tilers around my neck of the woods never did any training and never worked for anyone. He started out much like me (without basic training tho) and started doing cheap ceramic splashbacks etc. He'll now do any kind of tiling and earns a fortune. Is this really wrong????

i started out doing tiny jobs and have progressed loads. most of my first few jobs were tiling wooden floors and im now brilliant at that. Im not that experienced in walls still and i have a lot of respect and admiration for the time served tilers who find it easy now (most of the time)

as for affecting other peoples prices; i doubt i do! i hardly ever do a m2 rate and if i do its usually well above the standard set prices. for instance i'll do uncaliabrated slate for £45m2 inc materials. a time served tiler will do it in half as much time and so much twice as much money

ive bn told im the best floor tiler around as well. when i do wooden floors i either screw down every 150mm and tank the floors or a overboard them. every customer i speak to says that none of the other tilers around plan to do any prep before tiling on a chipboard floor. so whose robbing the customer then? not me! im doing a job thatll last


rant over,

 

[gid]

And these are the guys that are undercutting the real pros. Some of us have spent many years on **** wages doing an apprenticeship and then years learning after. Because of this we could command a premium wage. I expect to get at least £1,000 a week for my efforts and expertise, and along comes Jimmy new van and undercuts me by half. Then they have the bare faced cheek to come on here and after taking on the job and ask how to best do it!! Trouble is the customer 8 times out of 10 takes the lowest quote. Now you multiply that by all these chancers and all the real pros are being squeezed out because we refuse to demean ourselves by working for rubbish money. There should be a bloody law against these adverts on the right. they make me sick. You wanna get respect, do 4 years getting kicked up the arse and smacked up the back of your head for £10 a week. A 1 week BAL course then you set yourself up as a tiler, taking jobs off of real tradesmen because you are willing to do the job for half of what we would charge, you're taking the ****.
No offence meant.

First post on here and prob going to upset some people but never mind.
I for one have to agree with the above post.I started tiling for myself in 1987 and am sick of all the numpties who are in the trade.Lost track of the amount of jobs I have had to put right ,done by people who are charging buttons .

 

[P'boro tiler]

yea ive made a fortune fixing jobs done by time served experienced tilers.

 

[gid]

yea ive made a fortune fixing jobs done by time served experienced tilers.

im a bit slow and i know thats mostly because im still quite new to the business but does anybody have any tips of how to get the job done quicker?????
is it all about getting every cut right first...
your above quote says it all