Full Bathroom "project"

[Falcone83]

Hi,

I am new to the site and have started refurbishing my bathroom. I have only started ripping the old one out and have posted some pics of the job so far. there's pics of how it was previously also.

I have done a bit of tiling before (my kitchen floor, splashback, my mums hall floor and kitchen floor and one other job) and although I have never done a full bathroom before I am quite confident of doing this. I have a friend who is a joiner and another who is a plumber who said they would help when I need them.

I plan on posting the progress on here and I appreciate all help given.

I started taking the tiles off the wall and fond another set of tiles underneath which was a pain but the top layer of tiles had been dot and dabbed on so came off ok with a gentle but firm hit with a hammer.

I had to take the external wall back to the brick as it will need re plastered. I am reluctant to rip the bath and shower out until this is done as I cant go too much further until then. I have a downstairs toilet so these have been removed upstairs.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Don't replaster the outside wall, board it and tile direct to that. You have a greater weight tolerance on unplastered boards.

 

[White Room]

As TJ, the thermalites will need boarding due the movement from those blocks.

 

[Falcone83]

Don't replaster the outside wall, board it and tile direct to that. You have a greater weight tolerance on unplastered boards.

Ok thanks. I assumed it would need plastered, how will I build the window sill back up to make it square? Can this be done with plasterboard also?

 

[White Room]

Ok thanks. I assumed it would need plastered, how will I build the window sill back up to make it square? Can this be done with plasterboard also?

Yes

 

[Falcone83]

Ok thanks, I will look into this rather than plaster.

I initially thought about strapping the back wall and putting plasterboard but when my friend who is a plasterer suggested just plastering it I thought that would be ok

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Ask a tiler what he'd want!
Flat and straight boards that can take 32 kg weight of tiles per square mt.
Board adhesive stick like shxt.

 

[White Room]

Ok thanks, I will look into this rather than plaster.

I initially thought about strapping the back wall and putting plasterboard but when my friend who is a plasterer suggested just plastering it I thought that would be ok

If you done a solid plaster on those blocks there's a 90% chance the plaster will crack in some way, if you plasterboard any movement will not follow thru to the tiles.

 

[Falcone83]

So is it better to strap the wall then plasterboard or would dot and dab work...?

 

[White Room]

Not sure what you mean by strap, dot and dab the plasterboard would be my option.

 

[Falcone83]

Not sure what you mean by strap, dot and dab the plasterboard would be my option.

Sorry, by strap I meant fix timber to the wall and then fix the boards to that.

The window is in a bit of a mess due to the plaster coming away. I'll try and get a picture.

 

[LM]

What type of tiles/materials do you intend on using?
Are you aware of the necessity to tank?
Could you move the shower to the opposite flat end of the bath wall?
All these things considered will help you leave a proper job

 

[Falcone83]

What type of tiles/materials do you intend on using?
Are you aware of the necessity to tank?
Could you move the shower to the opposite flat end of the bath wall?
All these things considered will help you leave a proper job

We've not went as far as picking the tiles yet but I understand what adhesive I need to use on the walls and floors and I will be picking ceramic tiles but not sure on size.

We are going to get a shower cubicle, there is an electric shower already on the back wall and I will need to have the the floor boards lifted to re plumb the cubicle.

I thought tanking was only required when installing a Wetroom?

 

[LM]

We've not went as far as picking the tiles yet but I understand what adhesive I need to use on the walls and floors and I will be picking ceramic tiles but not sure on size.

We are going to get a shower cubicle, there is an electric shower already on the back wall and I will need to have the the floor boards lifted to re plumb the cubicle.

I thought tanking was only required when installing a Wetroom?

You need to tank any wet area, even inside a shower tray or above a bath and in turn use powdered adhesives. Tubbed adhesive will not cure when used with a tanking system.
Plaster board in these areas is ok if correctly tanked, but for the extra few pound you'd be better going with a tile backer board. If you run with ceramic tiles then there won't be a weight issue with plaster board. Ask your mate the plumber to install the shower tray in conjunction with Classi or Aqua seal, then follow the tanking kit instructions regarding application and simply over lap the Classi seal with a band of tanking tape, then also tape down the internal corner and you'll have a fail safe shower. Also make sure you over board the floor boards with something like hardie backer.

 

[Falcone83]

You need to tank any wet area, even inside a shower tray or above a bath and in turn use powdered adhesives. Tubbed adhesive will not cure when used with a tanking system.
Plaster board in these areas is ok if correctly tanked, but for the extra few pound you'd be better going with a tile backer board. If you run with ceramic tiles then there won't be a weight issue with plaster board. Ask your mate the plumber to install the shower tray in conjunction with Classi or Aqua seal, then follow the tanking kit instructions regarding application and simply over lap the Classi seal with a band of tanking tape, then also tape down the internal corner and you'll have a fail safe shower. Also make sure you over board the floor boards with something like hardie backer.

Thanks for the info, we were thinking about maybe using wet wall for the shower area as it's easier to keep clean. Still undecided though. If I go with tile I will be sure to tank it.

I am definitely using hardiebacker over the floorboards. The floor is sound throughout, no movement in any area.

I'm assuming the shower cubicle is fit first and then I install backer board around it and then tile?

 

[LM]

it wouldn't matter if you fit the shower tray on top of the hardie, either would do,a better job tho imo.

 

[Falcone83]

it wouldn't matter if you fit the shower tray on top of the hardie, either would do,a better job tho imo.

Ok, thanks. Appreciate the help.

I will post again when I'm a bit further forward.

 

[LM]

That's one of the reasons we're here.

 

[Falcone83]

Which tanking kit would you recommend if I were to tile inside the cubicle and are they straight forward to use?

 

[LM]

The one I'd recommend for you would be
BAL Tank-it | Tiling Products | BAL Adhesives
Or
Ardex WPC - FastTrack Screeding
They're both the same product more or less and by far superior to anything out there that a diy'er so to speak would use. A bit more expensive also, but how much would a failure cost you?

 

[Falcone83]

Appreciated