Flexible adhesive and grout.....

[Andy Allen]

What flexible adhesive and grout combination are you using for a wooden substrate..
After overboarding with a suitable backer board.

 

[Spare Tool]

Changed to ultra last year and get on well with their S1 slowset sp+es in white or grey, all I really use now. The ultra grouts are good too...not had any issues with patchy greys

 

[Flintstone]

I use tilemaster and ultra adhesives and levellers mainly but I'm really looking for a new grout as I'm not happy with tilemaster any more I'm keen to try the karakoll grouts

 

[Waluigi]

Tried kerakoll eco 2 to 12 last week. Nothing spectacular. I need to try the fine stuff. Eco flex or whatever as that’s supposed to be the good stuff.

This gear was sandy and seemed similar to Bal Superflex wide joint.

Floor adhesive, I tend to use Tilemaster or Biogel No Limits or revolution with Bal MM2. I like the Bal grout despite some hating it. It’s good stuff

 

[Qwerty]

Kerakoll bio gel & usually Tilemaster grout 3000

 

[Brian the Tile]

What flexible adhesive and grout combination are you using for a wooden substrate..
After overboarding with a suitable backer board.

Tilemaster

 

[Andy Allen]

Kerakoll bio gel & usually Tilemaster grout 3000

Do you use an additive With the grout ?

 

[Qwerty]

Do you use an additive With the grout ?

I did use to add flexmaster to the grout in certain circumstances but find Kerakoll Fugalite bio epoxy grout better now if the need requires it.

 

[Andy Allen]

Tried kerakoll eco 2 to 12 last week. Nothing spectacular. I need to try the fine stuff. Eco flex or whatever as that’s supposed to be the good stuff.

This gear was sandy and seemed similar to Bal Superflex wide joint.

Floor adhesive, I tend to use Tilemaster or Biogel No Limits or revolution with Bal MM2. I like the Bal grout despite some hating it. It’s good stuff

Do you add GT1 to the bal grouts ?

 

[Waluigi]

No, no admix.

You don’t need to with MM2

 

[Boggs]

Tilemaster Ultimate on all my floors and grouted with Micromax 2, gunmetal most of the time seems to go with everything.

 

[Flintstone]

Adding the flex master makes the grout 3000 stick like you know what to a blanket I found

 

[Waluigi]

Tilemaster Ultimate on all my floors and grouted with Micromax 2, gunmetal most of the time seems to go with everything.

It does doesn’t it?! Especially on the current trend of grey wall tiles.

 

[Dumbo]

Changed to ultra last year and get on well with their S1 slowset sp+es in white or grey, all I really use now. The ultra grouts are good too...not had any issues with patchy greys

Last lot of ultra grout I used went off stupid quick do you think it was dodgy or is it always like that .

 

[Spare Tool]

Last lot of ultra grout I used went off stupid quick do you think it was dodgy or is it always like that .

It is a lot quicker setting than grout 3000, caught me out when I first started with it, just got used to it now mixing smaller batches etc.. Start cleaning off after about 20mins as a rule

 

[Flintstone]

With grout 3000 it takes a real long time to firm up on porcelain

 

[Waluigi]

I still have a bag of 3000 in the van.

Tempted to mix some up just to feel what it’s like as I know I’ll never use it as it’s white.

 

[Boggs]

I still have a bag of 3000 in the van.

Tempted to mix some up just to feel what it’s like as I know I’ll never use it as it’s white.

I think you need a hobby!

 

[Blunt Tool]

CTD going to start selling Ulta adhesives and grouts from November. Might give it a try as seems to get good feedback on here

 

[hmtiling]

CTD going to start selling Ulta adhesives and grouts from November. Might give it a try as seems to get good feedback on here

the s1 standard set white is very good

 

[Blunt Tool]

the s1 standard set white is very good

Do you use the grout Harry?

 

[hmtiling]

Do you use the grout Harry?

I do and get on with it well. It's somewhere in between ucp and grout 3000(like every grout)for drying. I find it dries more like ucp, as in a lot harder than 3000. Had no issues with patching to date. Unlike ucp, it's fine with ceramic

 

[acaciaguy]

For Mapei users in the situation mentioned by Andy Allen which of their range would you use. Most upstairs bathrooms in houses have floorboards or chipboard on joists which I then overboard with a backer board , usually no more ply. I’m doing a ground floor flat bathroom and ensuitr next month - concrete slab with joists resting on top then 22mm plasterboard, then 18mm chipboard panels. I’m going to overboard with 6 my nmp. No ufh. I tend to use keraflex maxi s1 for most wall and floor applications as I get on with it well. Would there be any need to use an s2 in this situation

 

[Dumbo]

I would as long as your floor is stable and isn't bouncing or rocking , s1 will be fine . If it is rocking or bouncing sort it out as no adhesive will save it .

 

[acaciaguy]

It’s very very solid. I’ve bounced all over it it to make sure no movement at all.

What situations would you use an s2 v s1?

 

[Dumbo]

Personally I don't use s2 . My personal belief is if you need an s2 you need to improve your background prep. Bal flex was I believe originally designed for use in the subways where there is a lot of vibration from trains . Although I have just received a spec about going over low build wet underfloor heating using s2 .

 

[acaciaguy]

thanks jctiling, that does make sense, to be honest I have never felt the need to use it. i just like to check how others are doing things. I tend to call mapei technical for any advice re: the application of their products should I feel the need. They have so many different addys most of which seem to cross over in application to each other. It can get a bit confusing. As i said i use the maxi s1 for most floors and walls and get on with it well.

 

[J Sid]

its not always what your sticking to, but what is being stuck that depends on what adhesive needs to be used

 

[JordanLincs]

They have so many different addys most of which seem to cross over in application to each other. It can get a bit confusing.

Couldn't agree more

 

[Waluigi]

Find an adhesive that you know fits the spec and try to stick with it. Pun intended.

I’ve gone through a lot of adhesives this year, trying each one out. A few freebies. Found one I like and I’m set now.