fixing large heavy tiles on wall

[aflemi]

i have a feature wall to do in an en-suite using these tiles
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They are 800 sq, 15mm deep and weigh 40kg psm. The wall was skim plastered on breeze block, I have battened it with 40mm timber at 300 intervals using rawlplugs and will board with 12.5 mm marmox, which will be as flat as possible. Manufacturer only specifies cementitious adhesive, ntg more specific, I was planning to use mapei Adesilex P9 which is non rapidset to give me time for adjustments. Any advice on adhesive and tile cutter I should be hiring?

 

[White Room]

I would imagine a wet cutter would be better than a manual because of the surface shape, I would use a fast set because of the weight of the tile as well..

 

[aflemi]

I would imagine a wet cutter would be better than a manual because of the surface shape, I would use a fast set because of the weight of the tile as well..

sorry shd have said yes i mean which table saw really. Interesting re rapidset, why would you want it setting quicker if it's going nowhere?

 

[Peter]

Rapidset is usually very slidey on walls, a good grippy single part flexi such as Biscem OPF would give you less heartache.

 

[Alan.P]

depending on where you are in the country, there is a rail saw for sail in the for sale section near Nottingham, £20, £240 volt, so no good for site really.

 

[Daz]

Those bad boys look like loads of fun :lol:

I'd probably consider something like Ardex X77 - not the cheapest but it'll keep 'em where you put 'em.

As for a cutter, I'd use my D24000, but if your hiring then I would ask the hire centre what they can supply and make a judgement as to whether the cutter will cope.

Daz

 

[White Room]

If your putting onto battens and building the wall up theres alot of weight on it..

 

[aflemi]

If your putting onto battens and building the wall up theres alot of weight on it..

well the idea is the battens ( more like studwork actually) are fixed hard to the wall then marmox screwed into them. Load bearing up to 62 kg psm so will be ok. I was looking for non slump adhesive, Mapei say P9 is 'High strength, polymer modified adhesive for installing ceramic and porcelain tiles and mosaics, no vertical slip. For interior and exterior applications on conventional wall and floor substrates.' which seems to cover it.

 

[aflemi]

Those bad boys look like loads of fun :lol:

I'd probably consider something like Ardex X77 - not the cheapest but it'll keep 'em where you put 'em.

As for a cutter, I'd use my D24000, but if your hiring then I would ask the hire centre what they can supply and make a judgement as to whether the cutter will cope.

Daz

Cheers, don't really use ardex, would it be better for this than the Adesilex P9? Noted re table saw

 

[Daz]

I use a lot of P9, but for something that size I would want to use X77 or Mapei Keraflex.

I can't wait to see the pics..

Daz

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Too much lippage for me:lol:

30 years ago Pilkingtons used to make a 6inch tile like that.

 

[classic tiling]

I would use mapei keraquick and prime the wall first with mapei primer G.

 

[aflemi]

Mapei tech help recommend using Granirapid.. (if she isn't too busy knitting and baking scones that is :lol
They say it needs quick setting (like Whitebeam)
Tx help guys, although struggling to find a decent rail saw to hire locally, might have to soldier on with my Topps QEP 750w with a new blade, see how it goes.

 

[kilty55]

pci nanolite rapid set would be my choice,looks nice

 

[Ian]

Will an 800x800 tile fit in that saw?

 

[kilty55]

grani rapid is nice to work with also

 

[aflemi]

Will an 800x800 tile fit in that saw?

It's a table saw, so only restriction is depth of cut (25mm). With 2 of us guiding it through slowly it should be ok. I have 8 full length cuts to do.

 

[Ian]

Ah right, I thought it was a bridge saw and the guide rail would get in the way. My bad!


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[davemul]

Classic tiling, why would you prime the marmox boards?

 

[classic tiling]

I personally always find it better to prime walls when using powdered cement based adhesives

 

[Perry]

pci nanolite rapid set would be my choice,looks nice

i would use nanolite

 

[aflemi]

i would use nanolite

Any idea best source of Nanolight, i'm in Brentwood, Essex. Looks great but never used it.

 

[aflemi]

Guys, struggling to get this. Apart from Walltileadhesive.co.uk anyone know who would supply 3 bags of rapidset to essex. I'm looking at £45 delivery as it stands

 

[Perry]

will try to ring the rep if i remember tomorrow lol

Guys, struggling to get this. Apart from Walltileadhesive.co.uk anyone know who would supply 3 bags of rapidset to essex. I'm looking at £45 delivery as it stands

 

[Perry]

i think mapie do something like it Dave?

 

[aflemi]

will try to ring the rep if i remember tomorrow lol

they gave me 2 suppliers, both the other side of london and neither were 2 keen on supplying only 3 bags, not in stock, delivery charges prohibitive etc.

 

[aflemi]

i think mapie do something like it Dave?

Mapei recommended granirapid but the pci looks good and i'd rather use it if i can..

 

[PHG Dave]

Classic tiling, why would you prime the marmox boards?

Marmox boards do NOT need sealing

 

[aflemi]

FYI found Wall & Floor Tiles | Tile Adhesive & Grout | Tools | Trade Services reasonable delivery and trade acc discount. should get it 1-2 days at £6 cheaper per bag and £20 cheaper for delivery than my 'local' stockists....

 

[Perry]

FYI found Wall & Floor Tiles | Tile Adhesive & Grout | Tools | Trade Services reasonable delivery and trade acc discount. should get it 1-2 days at £6 cheaper per bag and £20 cheaper for delivery than my 'local' stockists....

thats not a bad price