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DHTiling
i bought these cutters a few month back now thet cut through porcelain like a hot knife to butter..no probs......dave....
Diamond drill porcelain wall tiles 365 drills holesaws drilling granite cutting floor
Diamond drill porcelain wall tiles 365 drills holesaws drilling granite cutting floor
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davy_G
The drills are fine for most usual pipe sizes. I bought the pack with 5 or 6 different sizes, Used them a few times for showers and for one floor that the radiators where removed. They drill ceramics all day long but if you have a big porcelain job needing holes drilled add the £40 onto the quote and replace any dulling at the end of the job. Oh, the dull ones will keep drilling ceramics!
Sounds expensive compared to these bits which are pretty special. Checkout the topics started by '365drills' in this forum: http://www.tilersforums.com/editorials-articles/ - really unique design and really inexpensive really for what they can do.
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Deleted member 1779
£40 quid is an easily quantifiable cost than can be added to a customers invoice. Just think that the jobs using pure porcelain cost £5000 because you are looking at £40-£80 per square meter for tiles.
And £25 per square meter to fit them.
Slicing holes into them can cost a fortune if you buy expensive drill rigs.
So on balance £40 is nothing.
You need a straight blade for cutting porcelain
And a set of drills to bash out the holes
If you want top quality finishes like this
Then its diamonds for the work. And I make you (and everyone else) the same promise.
If you dont like them. FOR WHAT EVER REASON then its a full no quibble money back guarantee including full refund on postage. We dont charge any "restocking fee".
Basically I am an honest bloke. Got a good product. People like it. Does what it says on the tin. And I try and earn a fair profit on it. Yes you will always get those banging on about getting cheap bits in from china but that the same argument as saying save £100 and get a polish tiler to come in and tile for £50 a day and not £150 a day.
At the end of the day we want to do is provide a great service and product and earn enough to pay out morgage, go on holiday, and eat Christmas dinner.
And heres what the £39.99 kit does
And £25 per square meter to fit them.
Slicing holes into them can cost a fortune if you buy expensive drill rigs.
So on balance £40 is nothing.
You need a straight blade for cutting porcelain
And a set of drills to bash out the holes
If you want top quality finishes like this
Then its diamonds for the work. And I make you (and everyone else) the same promise.
If you dont like them. FOR WHAT EVER REASON then its a full no quibble money back guarantee including full refund on postage. We dont charge any "restocking fee".
Basically I am an honest bloke. Got a good product. People like it. Does what it says on the tin. And I try and earn a fair profit on it. Yes you will always get those banging on about getting cheap bits in from china but that the same argument as saying save £100 and get a polish tiler to come in and tile for £50 a day and not £150 a day.
At the end of the day we want to do is provide a great service and product and earn enough to pay out morgage, go on holiday, and eat Christmas dinner.
And heres what the £39.99 kit does
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Deleted member 1779
Cheers. I believe we sell at a fair price considering the cost of alternatives out there.
On ebay I reached a feedback score of 800..... *hooray* And as many of you who use the site will know to get that level happy comments then you have to work very hard for each and every customer. Just the slightest thing and they will slate you...
Yup 800 positive compliments and only 1 complaint. And even the complaint was about me not having enough pictures in my ebay ads.... Not about the product!
We were jumping through hoops to deliver during the postal strikes.
Must admit though I was livid with the guy for spoiling my 100% record.
On ebay I reached a feedback score of 800..... *hooray* And as many of you who use the site will know to get that level happy comments then you have to work very hard for each and every customer. Just the slightest thing and they will slate you...
Yup 800 positive compliments and only 1 complaint. And even the complaint was about me not having enough pictures in my ebay ads.... Not about the product!
We were jumping through hoops to deliver during the postal strikes.
Must admit though I was livid with the guy for spoiling my 100% record.
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Deleted member 1779
Best to use a battery hand drill. Drilling needs to be slow and gentle so avoid hammer action or corded drills.
Reason to avoid corded is because at 240v (domestic) and 110v commercial there is water sloshing about at the drill site. With a low volt hand drill its much easier, safer and more practical.
RE: Drill selection - that is a very personal matter. Me? I attend a lot of demos and for five years used a BOSHH 14.4v drill without problems. But then some **** Nicked it from my stand at Tile & Stone. Thats it in action below:
I could have bought a replacement BOSHH but instead chose Dewalt based on of all stupid things - the colour.
My thinking was it looked brighter in photographs with used with our yellow drill plates. The BOSHH looked dull
Biiiiiggggggg mistake.
My BOSHH was a much better drill that this DEWALT.
At the time of the theft I needed a drill in a hurry so paid a premium of £170 for it via a local shop. But if I had time to research I think Screwfix were doing it for about £117.
In hindsight (and in future) I will go back to a BOSHH 14.4v with spare battery.
Reason to avoid corded is because at 240v (domestic) and 110v commercial there is water sloshing about at the drill site. With a low volt hand drill its much easier, safer and more practical.
RE: Drill selection - that is a very personal matter. Me? I attend a lot of demos and for five years used a BOSHH 14.4v drill without problems. But then some **** Nicked it from my stand at Tile & Stone. Thats it in action below:
I could have bought a replacement BOSHH but instead chose Dewalt based on of all stupid things - the colour.
My thinking was it looked brighter in photographs with used with our yellow drill plates. The BOSHH looked dull
Biiiiiggggggg mistake.
My BOSHH was a much better drill that this DEWALT.
At the time of the theft I needed a drill in a hurry so paid a premium of £170 for it via a local shop. But if I had time to research I think Screwfix were doing it for about £117.
In hindsight (and in future) I will go back to a BOSHH 14.4v with spare battery.
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tiler burden
hi
bought a set from 365 drills and they are excellent value for money.
tried them on some procelain and they went through no worries. used a small plastic water sprayer at intervals and this helps alot.
then tried them on ordinary ceramics and they just flew through time and time agian.
an excellent price and they are pound for pound well worth the investment..
ed
bought a set from 365 drills and they are excellent value for money.
tried them on some procelain and they went through no worries. used a small plastic water sprayer at intervals and this helps alot.
then tried them on ordinary ceramics and they just flew through time and time agian.
an excellent price and they are pound for pound well worth the investment..
ed
http://www.tilersforums.com/drill-holes-procelain-tough-tiles/4138-everlasting-drills-part-one.html
In the above post they're resting on some type of rubber mat... and they're thin ceramic 6" too which would no doubt be of the weakest you'd need to cut through.
In the above post they're resting on some type of rubber mat... and they're thin ceramic 6" too which would no doubt be of the weakest you'd need to cut through.
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Deleted member 1779
On tiles that are off the wall (not fitted) the drills work really well and dont slip.
Just place the tile on the floor and start drilling. Really easy.
The only thing to consider is the surface underneath will be scratched as the core pops through the tile so make sure it is not something that will be on show. IE not the tiled bathroom floor. A scrap of wood is best.
Also my favourite method is to drill tiles outside over an open drain with a hosepipe trickling on the tile.
Just place the tile on the floor and start drilling. Really easy.
The only thing to consider is the surface underneath will be scratched as the core pops through the tile so make sure it is not something that will be on show. IE not the tiled bathroom floor. A scrap of wood is best.
Also my favourite method is to drill tiles outside over an open drain with a hosepipe trickling on the tile.
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grumpygrouter
Sorry, I have to take issue with that statement Richard, the drill DOES wander if the tiles are off the wall, you DEFINATELY need the guide to help hold the drill in position when you first start, until you have a groove cut.
Grumpy
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Deleted member 1779
Drill life is 2-6 holes on the pack (for retail) but we have built some redundancy into the cores so know they are good for about ten.
What we didnt want was for shop keepers to recieve customer returns and complaints about drill life so we dumbed it right down.
In contrast some other systems make no claims so the customer is in the dark about lifespan.
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My fault. Let me reclarify drill wander (drill slip). Yes the drill will slip on any tile without the use of the drill plate/guide.
You must still use the guide plate with our kit to prevent slipping on tiles either fitted to a vertical wall or fitted to a floor.
Once you get started into the tile you can remove the guide and the crown sits into a little groove.
Hope that makes sense. Oh and the above method is my favourite for off wall tiles to pop it over a drain hole and drill with a water source.
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What we didnt want was for shop keepers to recieve customer returns and complaints about drill life so we dumbed it right down.
In contrast some other systems make no claims so the customer is in the dark about lifespan.
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My fault. Let me reclarify drill wander (drill slip). Yes the drill will slip on any tile without the use of the drill plate/guide.
You must still use the guide plate with our kit to prevent slipping on tiles either fitted to a vertical wall or fitted to a floor.
Once you get started into the tile you can remove the guide and the crown sits into a little groove.
Hope that makes sense. Oh and the above method is my favourite for off wall tiles to pop it over a drain hole and drill with a water source.
R
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tiler burden
on another note,
i have used quite a few different drill bits for ceramics lately inc rubi's ceramic set at £55-oo, triangle bits, adjustable bits etc and i have to say i would rather buy a set of 365 drill bits for ceramics alone. much neater and accurate and those rubi sets get jammed onto the centre bit arrrghh....the 365 drill bits last quite alone time and the finished hole is excellent. in a trade where the finish of your workmanship is crucial, then these bits essential
cheers
ed
i have used quite a few different drill bits for ceramics lately inc rubi's ceramic set at £55-oo, triangle bits, adjustable bits etc and i have to say i would rather buy a set of 365 drill bits for ceramics alone. much neater and accurate and those rubi sets get jammed onto the centre bit arrrghh....the 365 drill bits last quite alone time and the finished hole is excellent. in a trade where the finish of your workmanship is crucial, then these bits essential
cheers
ed
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Deleted member 1779
Thanks Ed (tiler burden) you raise a good point about ceramics.
I cant over stress the results these kits have on soft ceramics. For professional quality finishes produced in seconds these kits excell.
They just blast away all day!
To leave perfect results in any part of the tile.
Even if you never touch a porcelain tile job these kits are a must for every tiler
Like you said above...... "in a trade where the finish of your workmanship is crucial, then these bits essential"
I cant over stress the results these kits have on soft ceramics. For professional quality finishes produced in seconds these kits excell.
They just blast away all day!
To leave perfect results in any part of the tile.
Even if you never touch a porcelain tile job these kits are a must for every tiler
Like you said above...... "in a trade where the finish of your workmanship is crucial, then these bits essential"
Nope.
I normally drill my holes on top of a piece of ply, and haven't had that problem once. I've had the drill slip once, on a Travertine tile, but that was my own fault for not having enough weight on the guide. The only time i've had a tile break was also down to me... Badly laid out Ceramic tile, left the hole too close to the edge of tile; kept shearing the corner off.
As for keeping the drill wet, i always have a bucket of water next to me, and alternate between drilling and dipping in the bucket. It's a little bit slow, but leaves your hands free.. Thinking about making a new guide out of 18/22mm ply, that way i can just fill the hole with water and just drill away!
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