porcel thin tiles price to lay

[dimitris11]

hello guys and sorry for my english as well... im working like a tiler in greece for 15 years and now im in uk. the reason why i post here is bcz i need to find prices to lay porcel thin tiles (1800x9000) and normal porcelain tiles. people tell me some prices but i feel better to ask in here for real prices. i know every area have diferent prices so i would like prices in liverpool for normal porcelain tiles plus a price for porcel-thin 1800x9000.thanks

 

[Flintstone]

Hello, we don't talk about prices on here I'm afraid. Have you used porcel thin tiles or large format tiles like those before ?

 

[dimitris11]

hello mate and thanks for ur reply. yes i use them many times in greece. i have the tools and everything and my only problem is i go price a job next week and i have how much people charge for them here

 

[Blunt Tool]

Take it you mean porcel thin 1800x900 and not 1800x9000 ! Why don't you work out how long you reckon it would take you to do job, then set a daily amount you are happy to work for then add materials on. That would get you started.

 

[dimitris11]

yes thats right haha i apologise for that i use cm most of the time. i take ur advise and see where it takes me. thanks

 

[LM]

Obviously we don't discuss prices here but the only problem I have with @dimitris plight is that over here anyway 'tilers' from foreign lands came had the same dilema and ended up laying tiles for a day rate which they thought was good which resulted in tiles being fitted WAY too cheaply. Greedy builders latched on to these prices and it ended up driving down the rates in general across the commercial sector.
Nowadays with all the changes to our game in techniques and materials I don't think everybody out there appreciates fully the skills and knowledge required to thrive in our game. Most labourers could slap down a 20mtr kitchen floor in 300x300's, but when it comes to successfully installing the likes of Porcelthin or even plank tiles I'd like to see a fair bases of rates for our trade which reflects the ability.

 

[Kyle Knowles]

One million euros per meter

 

[hmtiling]

One million euros per meter

 

[andy8758]

It's the overhead costs that push up the price. The cost of a decent straight cutter to cut tiles that size is currently over £2000. Some of the rail cutters are under £500, but you need two people to fix those tiles, and levelling clips are used by a lot of installers to ensure oversize tiles are lip page free. If the surface is not perfectly flat it's never going to be well fixed. All these costs add up.

Of course, some of the Tilers from Europe get away with using a handheld wheel to score and their knee to snap it. I cant compete with that kind of low price overhead - I simply don't have the skills to do a good job with those kind of tools.

But I am cheaper than Kyle, I should manage to do it for €9900 per square metre.

 

[Kyle Knowles]

I've never fitted anything over 770mm I'd love to but non of my customers go bigger than 600 x 600 usually

 

[Flintstone]

No body round here goes that big, my largest is 900x600 30mm thick limestone or 800sq thin porc

 

[dimitris11]

one million per sqm? i wont comment on that. about how to lay those tiles i have the 3m sigma kera cut cutter and im using a good leveling system.

 

[Italy]

pulls a bad air, in this trend........

 

[andy8758]

I had to enter the dark side and buy a 1200 Sigma cutter because I find myself installing everything from 800x800 to 1200x900. Fortunately the contractor who specifies these preps the rooms very flat and square. But I now find myself using levelling clips on these larger tiles to keep it as perfectly flat as possible. And that bumps my psm price up.

 

[Simons70]

When you quote must pay attention at the cost of tiles.
I quote for fit 3000x1200 porcel thin last year,I see the job,bathroom in a flat near to London Eye,6Th floor,tiles not delivered yet.The day when start I find the tiles outside,the delivery man wait me to pick them up.Never quote for pick up the tiles 6 floors on to intricate stairs and the first tile we try to go up was broken and we pay 534£ for have one more to complete the job.
''Hi Edward,

Please see attached the amount for the tile that was broken. We are
getting the tile to County Hall on Monday morning so it will be in the
flat for you to install on Saturday 17th.

Georgina''
On 25/08/2016, 09:42, "Matteo Catena" wrote:

>Dear Georgina,
>Thank you for the payment of £ 534.31 for your order 41765. Please find
>attached sales order confirmation and we will post you a copy with the
>receipt.
>Many thanks.

 

[One Day]

Should be a minimum 40% extra for thin large format.
Extra large 2.4m+ is a whole different game...

 

[Blunt Tool]

Should be a minimum 40% extra for thin large format.
Extra large 2.4m+ is a whole different game...

If you are installing that size it would not be a price for 1 person, you would charge for at least 2 at a very good specialised rate, to cover knowledge, specialist tools etc

 

[Old Mod]

The biggest problem with pieces of that size is that customers do not want to buy spares.
In over 30 years I've never had to pay for an extra tile out of my own pocket, until I broke one by misshandling it.
My fault entirely, learnt what not to do again tho haha

 

[Flintstone]

Should be a minimum 40% extra for thin large format.
Extra large 2.4m+ is a whole different game...

At what point do you think a tile becomes large format and requires such a price increase ?

 

[Simons70]

The biggest problem with pieces of that size is that customers do not want to buy spares.
In over 30 years I've never had to pay for an extra tile out of my own pocket, until I broke one by misshandling it.
My fault entirely, learnt what not to do again tho haha

Honestly can't buy extra tiles especially if is book match,witch one need to buy?.Also,you need just 7 tiles to do one bathroom,can't order more

 

[Old Mod]

At what point do you think a tile becomes large format and requires such a price increase ?

The smallest thin tile I've seen is 900 x 900

 

[One Day]

At what point do you think a tile becomes large format and requires such a price increase ?

I'd say over 90x90. Anyone else???

 

[Italy]

The smallest thin tile I've seen is 900 x 900

Next week, I start a job with 500x500x3,5mm

 

[Italy]

I'd say over 90x90. Anyone else???

It depends on my physical, ahah

 

[LM]

I'd say over 90x90. Anyone else???

Not too long ago 600x600 was considered large format, so I'd say anything larger than that in area or length for me would be classed as large format.

 

[Italy]

I think the demand for local is for 40% more.
agree with impish, over of 90x90

 

[Italy]

I think the demand for local is for 40% more.
agree with impish, over of 90x90

course for 10mm thick, thin porcelain is another world.

 

[Old Mod]

3 categorise for me,
Standard porc over 600 x 600
Thin tile upto and including 1800 x 900
And anything bigger.
I think they should all demand higher rates.
The failed floor I'm re-instating next week, which is 1800 x 900's was laid for £26m2! Which is outrageous, and does us no good at all!
Believe me I'm charging a lot more to put it right, and the rip out is being done by the guys who laid it!
Little bit of justice there I think!

 

[WetSaw]

....and the rip out is being done by the guys who laid it!

Who's paying to put it right?

 

[Old Mod]

Who's paying to put it right?

Far as I can tell, the builder is reimbursing my cost for materials and I think he's only paying back the money the client paid to have it laid by them. So any additional is being stood by the client.
I think, can't be certain tho.