Three tiles have fell off, how do i refix them?

[female_novice]

Three tiles fell off my wall in my kitchen, and underneath I scraped off the combed white tile adhesive and also another white layer with a knife. It exposed some gypsum and paper like material underneath.
I used three parts water to one part granfix acrylic primer but I read on this page Applying primer - advice please :-) - http://www.tilersforums.com/threads/applying-primer-advice-please.30387/ that it reacts to gypsum.
What does it do to gypsum?
I am panicking, because there is a crawlspace behind the kitchen with timbers and the crawlspace belongs to the buildilng owner as I am leaseholder of a flat.
What will the granfix do to the gypsum. on this page Applying primer - advice please :-) - http://www.tilersforums.com/threads/applying-primer-advice-please.30387/ someone said this "You just need the neat coats on their own when using cement based as it reacts with the gypsum plaster background"
What do they mean by granfix reacting with gypsum background and what can I do to correct the situation please. Here is a picture of the mess I made.
Before the thin coat of granfix dried, I put on another neat coat directly onto the gypsum. I need to know what it will do to the gypsum.
Will I have to have it replastered?
I'm really worried cos i have no money snd the whole kitchen needs doing really.
Will the granfix ruin the gypsum? How does it react, sorry to be in such a panic, but I got really scared when I read the above quote from the thread linked above
Thanks

 

[female_novice]

thanks for everones input, problem solved, got some evo stick for tiles in a gun and gonna grout tomorrow, tiles now stuck to the wall harder than ever.

 

[Qwerty]

thanks for everones input, problem solved, got some evo stick for tiles in a gun and gonna grout tomorrow, tiles now stuck to the wall harder than ever.

Sounds like silicone!!! Got a picture if the evo stik product?

 

[Flintstone]

Contact adhesive or no nails I imagine

 

[female_novice]

Sounds like silicone!!! Got a picture if the evo stik product?

Yeah, here it is, says its suitable for tiles. I just squirted a little circle of it in the middle of the tile and the tiles are now stuck harder to the wall than ever. I left a 1 inch gap so that the glue would not squirt out of the sides of the tiles, as I need to grout them tomorrow.
See below, have I done the right thing?
thanks

 

[Dan]

Hmmmmmm

Not really the way it's done to be honest. But it's done now. Just grout it tomorrow.

Send us a pic of the finished project.

 

[female_novice]

Hmmmmmm

Not really the way it's done to be honest. But it's done now. Just grout it tomorrow.

Send us a pic of the finished project.

Not really the way it's done, can you elaborate where I went wrong please?
1)Is it likely to damage the gypsum plaster? (IMPORTANT)
2) Did I leave too large a gap - should i have put glue closer to the edge?
2)Even though they seem stuck fast, are they likely to fall off?
3)I'm using unibond tile grout suitable for kitchens and bathrooms.

 

[Dan]

No it's fine don't worry about it.

You usually tile with tile adhesive and grout with tile grout though.

 

[female_novice]

No it's fine don't worry about it.

You usually tile with tile adhesive and grout with tile grout though.

Thanks for speedy reply, just used evo cos it was only three tiles.
Will the evo stik damage the gypsum, like have a chemical reaction to it?
It seems stuck fast and secure at the moment, but worried it may loosen in future?
Is unibond grout ok?
PS I left the granfix primer on, but only one neat coat on top of a weak 1 part granflix to 3 parts water.
thanks

 

[Dan]

No
No
Yes

 

[Flintstone]

I don't think you needed to bother with primer when using that glue in a tube, it sticks anything to anything and for this job for you, it's fine. It wouldn't worry. Just grout it with whatever grout you have

 

[female_novice]

No
No
Yes

thanks sorry to bother you again, I left the primer on, first coat 3 parts water to one part granfix, and then before 1st coat dried, I put one more neat coat of granfix on, the night before sticking the tiles on, is that ok, sorry to bother you.

 

[Dan]

Yes

 

[Flintstone]

If there stuck on that's it isn't it?

 

[female_novice]

Yes

thanks

 

[female_novice]

If there stuck on that's it isn't it?

I'm just worried cos I only put the evo stik in the centre of the tile and worried moisture will get behind the grout into the gypsum, is this likely?
The grout i am using isnt waterproof but says suitable for kitchens and bathrooms, from unibond, is that ok? thanks

 

[Dan]

I don't think you needed to bother with primer when using that glue in a tube, it sticks anything to anything and for this job for you, it's fine. It wouldn't worry. Just grout it with whatever grout you have

I'm just worried cos I only put the evo stik in the centre of the tile and worried moisture will get behind the grout into the gypsum, is this likely?
The grout i am using isnt waterproof but says suitable for kitchens and bathrooms, from unibond, is that ok? thanks

It's fine don't worry about it.

Shall I close the thread now? I assume the problem is sorted. We always close threads here once the problem is sorted and the Gypsum is fine.

 

[Flintstone]

If

 

[female_novice]

one more question sorry, how would i grout this bit, would i need tile grout and caulk and if so, how long would i leave grout before applying caulk, and what type of caulk would i need? thanks

 

[Dan]

Yeah, here it is, says its suitable for tiles. I just squirted a little circle of it in the middle of the tile and the tiles are now stuck harder to the wall than ever. I left a 1 inch gap so that the glue would not squirt out of the sides of the tiles, as I need to grout them tomorrow.
See below, have I done the right thing?
thanks View attachment 89016

You have to make sure when you hold that stuff, that you hold it the same as in the picture on the tube, else it sometimes doesn't work. Did you hold it right when you did it?

 

[female_novice]

It's fine don't worry about it.

Shall I close the thread now? I assume the problem is sorted. We always close threads here once the problem is sorted and the Gypsum is fine.

no dont close ther thread please i put another question and picture in this thread, see my previous post to this with pic with red arrow. thanks

 

[Dan]

one more question sorry, how would i grout this bit, would i need tile grout and caulk and if so, how long would i leave grout before applying caulk, and what type of caulk would i need? thanks

Any you find in your local B&Q is fine usually.

 

[Dan]

no dont close ther thread please i put another question and picture in this thread, see my previous post to this with pic with red arrow. thanks

I can't see a red arrow.

 

[female_novice]

You have to make sure when you hold that stuff, that you hold it the same as in the picture on the tube, else it sometimes doesn't work. Did you hold it right when you did it?

What do you mean, it doesn't work. I used a gun, cos the container was one with a gun. it was hard work and only came out in a thin line.
How do I grout the edges, see pic with red arrow on above?
Do I need to seal edge with anything else as well as grout?

 

[Dan]

Just grout that bit it'll be fine.

 

[female_novice]

I can't see a red arrow.

the red arrow is on the edge.
I dunno how to grout that bit, and i dunno if i need anything else on top to seal it.
the bottom tile closest to worktop didnt fall off so i cant use beading.

 

[Dan]

the red arrow is on the edge.
I dunno how to grout that bit, and i dunno if i need anything else on top to seal it.
the bottom tile closest to worktop didnt fall off so i cant use beading.

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Oh yeah. Grout it. Or use tile trim. Tile Trim - from ProTileTrim.co.uk - http://www.*******************/index.php?site=2

 

[female_novice]

Oh yeah. Grout it. Or use tile trim. Tile Trim - from ProTileTrim.co.uk - http://www.*******************/index.php?site=2

that page directed me to skimlinks, if I just grout it will it be ok, i cant use tile trim cos there is a tile that didn come off, at the botttom.
When you asked if i held it right, i didn't
what do you mean when you said it won't work?
I used a mastic gun and just put a thin circle in the centre of the tile so evo wouldnt squeeze out of the edges.
How would i grout the edges, considering i cannot use a tile trim?
here is where i was redirected http://go.redirectingat.com/?rdrflb=1
thanks

 

[Flintstone]

I smell a rat

 

[female_novice]

I smell a rat

you smell a rat, what do you mean.
Im a woman, never tiled before, three fell off, I scraped it back to gypsum, and added granfix primer by mistake then used evostik suitable for tiles. Im no troll honest, ive had a lot of help from here.