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Has anyone used this? I took delivery of this yesterday from protiler. I was expecting the straps to have a flat base like they have in the promo video but they are curved. The curve is approx 10mm which I think is going to cause me problems. I just don't see how I can insert them on tiles that have been laid where I'm fitting the next tile. Surely it would pull the tile up. The curve flattens when the caps are on and pulled tight but I'm struggling to see how they can work unless I have quite a thick bed of adhesive.

Anyone offer any advice? I'm used to using flat bases which can be inserted in tiles where the next tile isn't going to be immediately fitted.

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JCT said:
Not yet, will give them a call tomorrow.
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I had some from protiler and the same problem as you and called them, they said that Genesis had stopped making them with flat bottoms so why show a picture of them on the container they come in, Protiler was no help at all:mad:
N&C sell them with flat bottoms which are the Genesis type.
 
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I use the Genesis system, you can order either 'curved base' or ' flat base'
As regards the thickness of the clip base being too thick, who honestly would lay a tile that's large enough to require a levelling system with anything other than a 12 mm notch minimum, therefore the thickness of the levelling base isn't an issue.
I've been using the Genesis system because it does the job , but it used to be priced right, however I've recently been hit with a 50% price increase so I think I'm going to defer to the Ramondi system like everyone else on here does, and see how that compares.
 
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LEE MAC said:
I use the Genesis system, you can order either 'curved base' or ' flat base'
As regards the thickness of the clip base being too thick, who honestly would lay a tile that's large enough to require a levelling system with anything other than a 12 mm notch minimum, therefore the thickness of the levelling base isn't an issue.
I've been using the Genesis system because it does the job , but it used to be priced right, however I've recently been hit with a 50% price increase so I think I'm going to defer to the Ramondi system like everyone else on here does, and see how that compares.
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Did find there expensive and like yourself the Raimondi ones but recently sent for some cheaper versions from Italy.
 
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whitebeam said:
So how come you get flat bases but protilers get the curved ones ?
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Old stock maybe? Not sure. Or maybe i was just lucky. I'll give genesis a call tomorrow to see what the crack is.

I know they only have one code for the clips so maybe theere was a design change following critisism of the rounded base.

I'm just guessing but I'll find out and let you know.
 
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Paul C. said:
Old stock maybe? Not sure. Or maybe i was just lucky. I'll give genesis a call tomorrow to see what the crack is.

I know they only have one code for the clips so maybe theere was a design change following critisism of the rounded base.

I'm just guessing but I'll find out and let you know.
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When I called Protilers they said to me that was a design change but I know I can get them from N&C with flat bases but not at there prices.
 
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Doug Boardley said:
took a little while to get used to the pliers, I snapped maybe 4 of the bases off before I realised that you slide the pliers sideways to release.......dooh!
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Similar issue when i tried to tighten them up. I'm no expert on levelling systems, but i gave it a go at work. The white straps snapped very easily when tightening up and trying to bring the tiles level. I'd imagine on larger format tiles, the suction from the adhesive would make this system less effective and more difficult to straighten out? And, are the straps very weak or am i being too heavy handed with the pliers?
 
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Paul C. said:
Similar issue when i tried to tighten them up. I'm no expert on levelling systems, but i gave it a go at work. The white straps snapped very easily when tightening up and trying to bring the tiles level. I'd imagine on larger format tiles, the suction from the adhesive would make this system less effective and more difficult to straighten out? And, are the straps very weak or am i being too heavy handed with the pliers?
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I found them ok, after a few you get the feeling of how much pressure is needed but only used on wall tiles though.
 
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Paul C. said:
Similar issue when i tried to tighten them up. I'm no expert on levelling systems, but i gave it a go at work. The white straps snapped very easily when tightening up and trying to bring the tiles level. I'd imagine on larger format tiles, the suction from the adhesive would make this system less effective and more difficult to straighten out? And, are the straps very weak or am i being too heavy handed with the pliers?
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They're not really designed to 'straighten out' tiles!
They wouldn't snap so easily if they were.
They're simply to hold the tile in place while the adhesive sets,
to prevent any kind of shrinkage effecting the finish.
You're obviously way too heavy handed! Hahahaha
 
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Used some on the last large format tile job. Loved them. Had non snap and brought any small descrepencies out.
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