When to use a finishing tool on grout?

[Crumbs]

Hi, im sorry if this is a stupid question... cant seem to find a clear cut answer on it.

At what stage do you use a finishing tool / dowel or whatever suits for grout lines?
Is it after its dried for 10 mins as that would be when the joints are cleaned if using a sponge? or another time?

Thanks alot.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

There is no hard and fast rule. As an apprentice you tend to grout every day for months before you even fix a tile and it's during this time that you can feel/understand the joint drying. The grout has to harden sufficiently enough to stay in the joint at a high level, but be soft enough to take out without 'pulling' an uneven line. The humidity of the air has an important effect on drying and consequently the final polish of the face of the tile surface/glaze. The 'tooling' stick itself is important, and for years before washing off, I used a drumming stick with rounded end prior to polishing with a white 't' shirt!
Happy days!

 

[Qwerty]

Nearly all modern grouts have made the finishing tool obsolete. I have never used one. The wiping/ washing down finishes the joint perfectly

 

[Crumbs]

Thanks guys i will use it just before i sponge (after 10 mins or so) its properly obsolete in the professional scene but us diy warriors use them still I did try with a sponge but did not seem as consistant compared to a tool.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

What the tooling stick does is ensures the grout is pushed fully into the joint and gives a uniform finish to the tile edge. On anything over a 3mm joint it is still an essential part of a Tilers tool box!

 

[Andy Allen]

Never used one either...
I feel a poll coming on...
John might be a billy no mates..

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Never used one either...
I feel a poll coming on...
John might be a billy no mates..

As I said it's an essential part of a Tilers tool box!
You should try it on your Metro splash back tiles to rake out the bevelled edges.
Modern grouts are more reason to rake the joint - they require less water on the surface to clean away any excess thus keeping the consistency of the grout equal.
But what do I know - 44 years of watching people do it their own way!
Billy no mates - your spot on.

 

[Mark Frost]

i love a grouting tool.. 2mm joints and wooden dowel.. it gets rid of the air bubbles and pin holes. It also saves the use of too much water when washing down.. its so important to grouting still.

 

[Tile Shop]

Never tried one. When I first got taught grouting, I was shown to go over the joints in a crisscross diagonal direction. That way it doesn't pull the grout out of the joint getting rid of the need to use a finisher.

But I'm gonna try one now, cuz no matter what method or sponge I use to clean the grout off there is still the odd patch that I have to go back an pay a bit of extra attention to to get it right. Need more practice.

 

[Mark Frost]

@Paul C. you wont regret it

 

[Tile Shop]

@Paul C. you wont regret it

Been told that before. My first marriage proved it was a lie!

 

[LM]

I think it makes the whole process quicker, less water changes required also. Plus it guarentees uniformity in the joints.

 

[Crumbs]

Thanks guys, i used a virtex finshing tool in the end, only cost a few £ from screwfix. But in places it does look like its taken to much grout out, most likely slightly different size lines. The tile above causes light shadows onto the grout lines. Think the tool is likely better suited for smaller gaps.

Any tips on what i can use, i used spacers 3mm for tiling.
Also can i grout on top of it or am i better raking the areas out? Nice one thx

 

[Qwerty]

Care to elaborate on your 'disagree' comment @Brian the Tile ? Which of my comments did you disagree with? What are your thoughts on using a grout finishing tool.

 

[Brian the Tile]

I really cant see how you can get a perfect finish by just using a sponge ,the only time i dont point the joints is with mosaic or most floors ive never been able to get a good finish without ,what about metro tiles ,the same thing ?

 

[Qwerty]

Yes. Never ever used a tool. I ensure all joints fully filled at the grouting stage. This combined with attention to detail when wiping down guarantees compacted, even and smooth joints. Yes, even with metros!

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Never used one either...
I feel a poll coming on...
John might be a billy no mates..

Come on Andy - might need a poll to see how many 'tilers' their are on here!

 

[Blunt Tool]

Always have the old drumstick to hand, had it since Keith Moon threw it at me for driving his roller into a swimming pool!! Perfect joints every time!

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Mine was previously owned by Pete Best!

 

[Blunt Tool]

Mine was previously owned by Pete Best!

Did he throw it at you for telling him to take the day off and not worry about some numptie call Ringo Starr?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Who ?
No he was a bloke round the corner who played in a miners brass band that got disbanded after Arthur closed all the pits in the early seventies !

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Who ?
No he was a bloke round the corner who played in a miners brass band that got disbanded after Arthur closed all the pits in the early seventies !

 

[Time's Ran Out]

It was so good I sent it twice!

 

[Andy Allen]

I'll get a drumstick from KFC and try it...