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......so a few weeks before Christmas @GaryTheTiler invited me to embark on a little project with him.
All I really new initially was that it was a job in Hampstead North London, Gary met me at the tube station and drove the rest of the way.
Wasn't far actually, about 500m haha but it is up a very steep hill, so I didn't feel like a fraud. :rolleyes:
Sorry I digress! Hahahaha :D

So the job, approx 220m of Bookmatch Porcel-Thin over two corridors part of a stair well and around a lift shaft.
Not forgetting 7 flights of stairs and 13 landings and half landings, stringers, skirtings and a 3m high bulkhead! Simples! :)
After a couple more site visits we were starting to get a feel for what was to become a pretty technical project, but one which would be pretty dammed impressive if we pulled it off.

Book Match Porcelain Veins in the Printed Sheets​

Incidently, there's also another 3 lift surrounds plus a couple of walls in another 1200x600 regular 12mm porc to add to the above list.
The project was projected to start mid to late Feb, in actual fact it started mid March.

So as to get a feel for the job and what it might entail, between Christmas and New year I constructed a small 1/10th scale model of the ground floor stairwell and a couple of flights of stairs.
Anal? Perhaps!:rolleyes:
But it instantly highlighted problems we would face.
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It's late more tomorrow! ............
 
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No nap time..?
When Andy, Christmas? Haha always!
And anyhow, stop trying to make this another thread that's all about you! Hehe ;)
It's all about ME I tell u!
.....oh and @GaryTheTiler ! Hehe
.....oh yeah and I spose @Ray TT @ Porcel-Thin will feature somewhere or other, oh and a mention in dispatches goes to Brian, a guy that's worked with both Gary and Ray for many years and doesn't do Forums.
So he won't read this anyway! Haha (he's moved on now, at least for the time being)
Oh ok so it's not JUST about me! :rolleyes:
 

Andy Allen

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When Andy, Christmas? Haha always!
And anyhow, stop trying to make this another thread that's all about you! Hehe ;)
It's all about ME I tell u!
.....oh and @GaryTheTiler ! Hehe
.....oh yeah and I spose @Ray TT @ Porcel-Thin will feature somewhere or other, oh and a mention in dispatches goes to Brian, a guy that's worked with both Gary and Ray for many years and doesn't do Forums.
So he won't read this anyway! Haha (he's moved on now, at least for the time being)
Oh ok so it's not JUST about me! :rolleyes:
Sounds like your Oscar speech.!!...anyone you want to mention..lol
 
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Italy

......so a few weeks before Christmas @GaryTheTiler invited me to embark on a little project with him.
All I really new initially was that it was a job in Hampstead North London, Gary met me at the tube station and drove the rest of the way.
Wasn't far actually, about 500m haha but it is up a very steep hill, so I didn't feel like a fraud. :rolleyes:
Sorry I digress! Hahahaha :D

So the job, approx 220m of Bookmatch Porcel-Thin over two corridors part of a stair well and around a lift shaft.
Not forgetting 7 flights of stairs and 13 landings and half landings, stringers, skirtings and a 3m high bulkhead! Simples! :)
After a couple more site visits we were starting to get a feel for what was to become a pretty technical project, but one which would be pretty dammed impressive if we pulled it off.
Incidently, there's also another 3 lift surrounds plus a couple of walls in another 1200x600 regular 12mm porc to add to the above list.
The project was projected to start mid to late Feb, in actual fact it started mid March.

So as to get a feel for the job and what it might entail, between Christmas and New year I constructed a small 1/10th scale model of the ground floor stairwell and a couple of flights of stairs.
Anal? Perhaps!:rolleyes:
But it instantly highlighted problems we would face.
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It's late more tomorrow! ............
It looks familiar
 
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Italy

When Andy, Christmas? Haha always!
And anyhow, stop trying to make this another thread that's all about you! Hehe ;)
It's all about ME I tell u!
.....oh and @GaryTheTiler ! Hehe
.....oh yeah and I spose @Ray TT @ Porcel-Thin will feature somewhere or other, oh and a mention in dispatches goes to Brian, a guy that's worked with both Gary and Ray for many years and doesn't do Forums.
So he won't read this anyway! Haha (he's moved on now, at least for the time being)
Oh ok so it's not JUST about me! :rolleyes:
I nothing?.
I had to put up with for months.
ungrateful.:oops::oops::oops:
 
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Yep it may seem excessive to some,
but have u even given the complexity of the job any thought at all, probably not.
Why should you, you're not doing it!
Take the staircase for example, now we need to be able to make a transition between the flights on every one of the 13 landings and half landings so that we take a full piece full width of the tread and riser, because if u were to let it run naturally upward, you would end up with joints up the middle of a the staircase. So somehow the run of tiles have to be turned perpendicular to it self on every half landing.
One other small consideration, it has to be bookmatched!
This was the first thing that was clearly visible with the model.
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So on the first two landings, not only did we need to devise a transition from staircase to staircase, we also have to try Bookmatch it with the walls too!

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Also consider that this is a 14m2 set, there's no spares, u can't phone Ray and say "ooow can I have a B6 please cos I just naused it up!"
And at over a couple grand a set, mistakes can be expensive!
I'm not saying u can't jiggle the tiles and find an alternative, but u must remain aware that the pattern has to change now.
So....a lot of prep work?
No more than spending the day latexing I'd say, and besides it only took an afternoon to do.
It gave me a lot more confidence on how to approach the work, and that's what I set out to do.
 
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Ok so back to our little job :) cos u haven't even seen any progress yet! :rolleyes:
There was the usual slow start, finding somewhere to store gear and the 2 tonne of adhesives and levellers and so on, and hopefully not too far from where we were working.
Then there was the tile delivery, if I'm not mistaken (Ray can put me straight if I'm wrong) a 150kg approx per box of extremely fragile tiles.
Whilst we did have some help, well we all know how site labourers can be with 'fragile' goods.
And there was about 5-6 sets from memory, oh 2 boxes per set.
So heavy work.
And fortunately no ones gonna try put a box under their arm and walk out with it! Hahaha
It took a few days to settle in and get up and running, but we got there.
So we're a couple of weeks in and things have been less than smooth haha
But that's work for you.
Not from our point of view, we've been pressing on where we can, we just haven't always been able to. But we've all been there.
So I spose I'd better put a pic or two up then! Haha
So this is the result from the model, well partly.
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That's excellent Marc, like the saying goes, anyone can tile it's easy.....not!!!!

They must be paying a hefty fee in labour costs cos that is real skill to tie all that together
I think it's rare u ever get what it's really worth John, when working for builders at least.
But we muddle thro and hope we get it right.
And thank you, we're doing our best, and u haven't even seen Gary's staircase yet! :rolleyes:
 

John Benton

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I think it's rare u ever get what it's really worth John, when working for builders at least.
But we muddle thro and hope we get it right.
And thank you, we're doing our best, and u haven't even seen Gary's staircase yet! :rolleyes:

Your not telling me it's £30 a metre for work like that
 

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