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I have a Simpsons/Crosswater 1100 X 900, low profile, stone resin shower tray to fit.
My question is, why do the manufacturers insist on a sand cement bed when sand and cement tends to crack, shrink and not stick to wood very well?

My father in law is a bricky by trade and he seems to think it is strange that they insist on S/C, when it is not unknown to use flexible tile adhesives on wedi boards etc in wet rooms.

Would there be a greater risk of the S/C cracking and needing the warranty on the tray than the risk of not following the manufacturer's instructions, using a flexible adhesive that never gives way?

What would you use and have you ever had any call backs to either?

Thanks in advance for your comments and advice.
 
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I don't fit trays generally but I've fitted one or two and I used an S2 adhesive.
 
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I have fitted many trays with flexible adhesive and never had a comeback , but much the same as tiling you must get a good coverage on the tray as if it fails it will good the warranty .
 

Boggs

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Always S1/S2 adhesive here, always clean the back of the tray to remove the dust.
 

Bopster

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Flex adhesive here to.
With s/c a tray would be easy to lift of if ever required. In adhesive if ever required to lift it maybe harder, much harder
 

Ajax123

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It's not about sticking it down it's about giving it a solid level base.
 

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I once fitted a toilet with s1. I was doing a cloakroom and found the toilet was cemented in. Why have they done that i thought. Further investigation determined there was a gas pipe running under the bog. So s1 it was. I think the flex adhesive helps for the use of the toilet. I would use under tray
 

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I always bed them down with a flexible powdered adhesive treat it as a big tile as stated above remove the dust from the back of the tray from manufacture. If it's to support the tray on legs maybe ? then a sand and cement screed is the norm. Kop
 

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