wet room / hall and kitchen - Tile Advice

[Anthony]

Ultra standard set is


Underfloor Heating (UFH): If UFH is being installed it must be fully commissioned before starting the tiling process to ensure it is in full working order. This includes both electric mat and water pipe systems. Once the UFH has been commissioned it can be set to a low level to provide a max floor temperature of 15 ̊C whilst the tiling and grouting processes are undertaken. It is critical that this temperature is not exceeded as this can force dry the adhesive and grout with the potential of causing cracks in the installation or tiles to de-bond. Maintain this temperature for a minimum period of 7 days while the installation cures and hardens. After this time the UFH can be brought up to the required room temperature slowly at a rate of 5 ̊C per day.
From the technical data sheet ultra tile fix. Standard set is slow set! Calcium based adhesive is for use without matting. Your still walking on cobbles you northern gimp!

Sorry. Calcium based adhesive is not for use WITH matting.

 

[benchwarmer]

Ultra standard set is


Underfloor Heating (UFH): If UFH is being installed it must be fully commissioned before starting the tiling process to ensure it is in full working order. This includes both electric mat and water pipe systems. Once the UFH has been commissioned it can be set to a low level to provide a max floor temperature of 15 ̊C whilst the tiling and grouting processes are undertaken. It is critical that this temperature is not exceeded as this can force dry the adhesive and grout with the potential of causing cracks in the installation or tiles to de-bond. Maintain this temperature for a minimum period of 7 days while the installation cures and hardens. After this time the UFH can be brought up to the required room temperature slowly at a rate of 5 ̊C per day.
From the technical data sheet ultra tile fix. Standard set is slow set! Calcium based adhesive is for use without matting. Your still walking on cobbles you northern gimp!

Ultra standard set ISN'T!
Ultra slow, is slow,
Ultra standard is standard, and yes, it lasts ages in the bucket, but doesn't allow any where near as much time for adjustment that a beginner may require!
You do know that there is a difference between slow, and standard? No?

 

[benchwarmer]

Sorry. Calcium based adhesive is not for use WITH matting.

Just call bal, schluter, or whatever mat you're using,
Ultra is fine!
And yes, they will still stick to the floor, however, will not give any crack resistance or resilience from laitence leeching up through the screed as a mat will!
Cheers for your help though Tony👍🏻
But your advice has been completely wrong and unrequired in this scenario, so see you later son, I'm off to wash my hair
Kind regards
Right again
Northern monkey x

 

[mick 55]

Thanks guys for the replies would you put the Matt over the shower former as it has already been tanked ?
cheers Play nice😉

 

[Anthony]

Just call bal, schluter, or whatever mat you're using,
Ultra is fine!
And yes, they will still stick to the floor, however, will not give any crack resistance or resilience from laitence leeching up through the screed as a mat will!
Cheers for your help though Tony👍🏻
But your advice has been completely wrong and unrequired in this scenario, so see you later son, I'm off to wash my hair
Kind regards
Right again
Northern monkey

1.laitence is the term used to the mineral that sits on top of the screed that should of been sanded anyway anything LEECHING THROUGH after that is called a leak mate.
2 do you think calcium based adhesive was produced just to stick
Matting. No it’s to stick the tiles directly to the floor.
3 crack resistance is related to the tile. you would use it for natural stone ie marble/limestone. If your worried about the screed cracking why don’t they put an expansion joint in the screed. Weak points are doorways cut tile in rebate and silicone joint it
4 you must think rapid set goes off quicker than fast set.😂😂

Just call bal, schluter, or whatever mat you're using,
Ultra is fine!
And yes, they will still stick to the floor, however, will not give any crack resistance or resilience from laitence leeching up through the screed as a mat will!
Cheers for your help though Tony👍🏻
But your advice has been completely wrong and unrequired in this scenario, so see you later son, I'm off to wash my hair
Kind regards
Right again
Northern monkey x

Ultra standard set ISN'T!
Ultra slow, is slow,
Ultra standard is standard, and yes, it lasts ages in the bucket, but doesn't allow any where near as much time for adjustment that a beginner may require!
You do know that there is a difference between slow, and standard? No?

Standard and slow are the same.
do you think rapid goes off quicker than fast set 😂😂 it’s just wording!

 

[benchwarmer]

1.laitence is the term used to the mineral that sits on top of the screed that should of been sanded anyway anything LEECHING THROUGH after that is called a leak mate.
2 do you think calcium based adhesive was produced just to stick
Matting. No it’s to stick the tiles directly to the floor.
3 crack resistance is related to the tile. you would use it for natural stone ie marble/limestone. If your worried about the screed cracking why don’t they put an expansion joint in the screed. Weak points are doorways cut tile in rebate and silicone joint it
4 you must think rapid set goes off quicker than fast set.😂😂


Standard and slow are the same.
do you think rapid goes off quicker than fast set 😂😂 it’s just wording!

You're completely correct, standard is slow setting, however I was instructing a novice tiler to use the actual "slow" set, as he is an actual beginner, and there is a difference! The ultra standard set "grabs" tiles quicker! Leaving less room for manoeuvre later on in the day, whereas the ultra slowset, which you obviously don't know exists, doesn't grab the tiles as quickly!
So therefore standard and slow are definitely NOT the same mate,
And regarding the antifracture mat, you're wrong also! The mat will allow for slight deformation to the screed! 😂 Expansion joints are for a completely different use!
So you would only use anti fracture mat with a natural stone? Even on a new screed?