Discuss Tiling on a cardboard wall!? in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.com

Status
Not open for further replies.

Duncan

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
20
Location
Hampshire
Hi,
I'm in the process of tiling a bathroom with 600x300 porcelain tiles (24kg square metre) and was planning to use wedi board (well an equivalent) for the plasterboard wall but it turns out the wall isn't a stud/plasterboard wall it's a kind of cardboard waffle/honeycomb construction so there is nothing to screw the wedi board to.
Are there any other options?
Also there are a couple of outside wall where all the plaster has come of leaving a rough (bit flakey) render
I was going to board this as well but would it be safe to tile straight onto the render if it was flat enough.

Thanks for any help received
Duncan
Photos attached

IMG_6983.JPG IMG_6987.JPG IMG_6989.JPG
 

wrighty

Tilers' Arms Member
Messages
1,950
Location
Northumberland
In this circumstance (I would)
Scrape or steam off any remaining old tile adhesive and give the walls 2/3 good coats of diluted PVA, patch up any large holes and skim the wall with finish plaster.
And when the plaster is dry, prime with diluted SBR liquid and waterproof the walls to be tiled with a tanking liquid.
Not an ideal scenario regarding kgs/m2 though
 
OP
D

Duncan

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
20
Location
Hampshire
Thanks for the replies
No there is not enough room to do the 50x50/board option
Isn't it pushing it a bit weight wise to put these on plaster and the drying time is a bit of a problem too.
Do I need to go back and recommend lighter tiles?
Yes it is a new bath, fitted by the owner before I go involved

Duncan
 

Bond

TilersForums.com Addict
Messages
421
Location
Highland
Thanks for the replies
No there is not enough room to do the 50x50/board option
Isn't it pushing it a bit weight wise to put these on plaster and the drying time is a bit of a problem too.
Do I need to go back and recommend lighter tiles?
Yes it is a new bath, fitted by the owner before I go involved

Duncan
 

Bond

TilersForums.com Addict
Messages
421
Location
Highland
How about glueing and using toggle style fixings into egg box partition, cement render looks a bit friable. Lighter tiles are probably a good call.
 
OP
D

Duncan

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
20
Location
Hampshire
How about glueing and using toggle style fixings into egg box partition, cement render looks a bit friable. Lighter tiles are probably a good call.
Hi Bond,
What are these toggle style fixing?
Yes the render is a bit s*** too.
I've not messed with it too much but I think it will be ok to plaster over.
All in all 24kg per meter tiles are not a good idea.

He's gone on holiday so I'll have to get in touch and tell him his bathroom won't be all lovely when he returns :-(
 

wrighty

Tilers' Arms Member
Messages
1,950
Location
Northumberland
The thing is......it takes what it takes(timewise)
It might take a bit longer to do it properly, but you have no comebacks on you.
 
OP
D

Duncan

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
20
Location
Hampshire
The thing is......it takes what it takes(timewise)
It might take a bit longer to do it properly, but you have no comebacks on you.
Yes indeed, it's just disappointing not to be able to do what I planned and I feel like I'm letting him down a bit.
 

Bond

TilersForums.com Addict
Messages
421
Location
Highland
Hi Bond,
What are these toggle style fixing?
Yes the render is a bit s*** too.
I've not messed with it too much but I think it will be ok to plaster over.
All in all 24kg per meter tiles are not a good idea.

He's gone on holiday so I'll have to get in touch and tell him his bathroom won't be all lovely when he returns :-(
 

pdc

Only a Handyman...
Trusted Advisor
Tilers' Arms Member
Messages
3,577
Location
Mijas, Malaga, Spain
What's the other side of the "cardboard" wall? Could you do anything the other side to be able to mechanically fix the wedi?
 

Bond

TilersForums.com Addict
Messages
421
Location
Highland
Spring toggles, normally used in plasterboard with cavity behind, they have wings which spring out behind boarding, and screw in to lock in position. Another option for fixing board , is hollow wall anchors. ( needs a setting tool though).
 
OP
D

Duncan

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
20
Location
Hampshire
Spring toggles, normally used in plasterboard with cavity behind, they have wings which spring out behind boarding, and screw in to lock in position. Another option for fixing board , is hollow wall anchors. ( needs a setting tool though).
Sound interesting but I just wouldn't have confidence in the whole lot not falling down on one of his kids heads. I can't believe how weedy this wall is!
I suppose its alright if you leave it alone.
 

dave l and l

Tilers' Arms Member
Messages
616
there are a few houses near me that were built using that construction. i have tiled a couple of bathrooms, if i remember it was the door wall into the hallway that was made of that ,the rest was plastered brick.
i never had a problem tiling onto those walls, i have worked in one of the houses since and the tiles are still fine , it was a ceramic tile however,
 
OP
D

Duncan

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
20
Location
Hampshire
there are a few houses near me that were built using that construction. i have tiled a couple of bathrooms, if i remember it was the door wall into the hallway that was made of that ,the rest was plastered brick.
i never had a problem tiling onto those walls, i have worked in one of the houses since and the tiles are still fine , it was a ceramic tile however,
Yes this is the bath/hall wall. I'd be happy to tile it with lighter tiles... well if the surface was tided up a bit.
 

scooby9858

New to TilersForums.com
Messages
7
Location
scotland
i came across this once but i was only fitting light tiles and got away with it.but during a search for a remedy i came across a post which said to carefully cut the inside gyproc and remove it and the honeycomb there is a 35mm stud top and bottom to build a new stud frame puting glue on the framework to stabalise the hall side. and when the hall is getting redecorated again screws can be screwed in from the hall side.probably be a big job but might be helpfull to you.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Tiling Forum

Get free wall and floor tiling advice from TilersForums.com's Tiling Forum. Both DIY and professional wall and floor tilers use this forum to make sure their tiling is spot on.

ElectriciansForums.net

Top Bottom