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TILE ADHESIVE AND GROUT CLASSIFICATIONS


I always get mixed up or forget what the number/Letter
combinations for the classification of adhesive and Grout mean and everytime I try to look for a guide on here I can never find one so I thought I would start one off myself.

Please feel free to add to it or correct me

Type C - Cementitious (Cement based Adhesives)
Type D - Dispersion (Ready mixed / Tubbed)
Type R - Resin (Epoxy)

TILE ADHESIVE CLASSIFICATIONS
Extra characteristics are described by the numbers and letters below

1 - Normal Adhesive
2 - Improved Adhesive
F - Fast Setting
T - Thixotropy (Reduced slip/ Slip Resistance)
E - Extended open time
G - Grout

S - Elasticity / Flexibility / Deformability
S1 = Deformable (Flexible)
S2 = Highly Deformable

TILE GROUT CLASSIFICATIONS
 
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Spot on with your summary! The adhesion test (C) is the most difficult to pass because the adhesive is put through a series of tests, freeze/thaw cycles, water immersion etc and then the bond strengths are measured after 28 days. C1 is greater than 0.5 N/mm2 after all the different cycles and C2 is greater than 1 N/mm2.

Adhesives classed C2 may well have some flexural properties because you do need a reasonable addition of polymer to achieve the C2. The official start for the flexibility/deformability test starts with the S1 which is greater than 2.5mm of flex and then the S2 is greater than 5mm flex.


There are a lot of flexible adhesives on the market these days, if you are using an S1 or S2 rated adhesive you can have that extra piece of mind!
 
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Have any classifications changed or been added recently does anybody know?
 
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mattle40

I think a lot of the time the classification is too broad
Bal SPF has always been my go to adhesive really which is a C2TE.
I'm now Moving to mapei and their two C2TE adhesives, the p9 and p10 both have different specs to each other and both different from bal spf.

I think this is mostly why the trade counters and a lot of fitters don't know the classifications because to a point they're irrelevant if there can be so much variation within them
 

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Just checking in on this. Is everything still the same?
 
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NZ_Tiler

Grout classification isn't showing up on my end.

W= more resistant to water
A = better abrasion resistance

C & R are the same as adhesive properties. ..
 
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NZ_Tiler

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think 1N/mm2 is roughly 9kg of pulling pressure
 
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Dumbo

The main question is . Is there a independent body that test adhesive to see Wether it is as good as the manufacturers claim .
 
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NZ_Tiler

The main question is . Is there a independent body that test adhesive to see Wether it is as good as the manufacturers claim .
Well my understanding if it has the EN 12004 stamp then it's been through those strict tests to get its rating.

Definitely wary of anything without a standard stamp.
 
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J Sid

I understand it was only the manufacture who did the test or had it done and then gave themselves the 'stamp'
 

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