Newly laid porcelain floor tiles over UFH, showing lines, - Tile Advice

[Ian gall]

new porcelain floor tiles laid 4 weeks ago over new electric heating matts. Heating only connected a week ago and dark lines showing on most tiles?

possible causes? Any help/ guidance appreciated. Laid by tiler not DIY.

 

[Dave]

new porcelain floor tiles laid 4 weeks ago over new electric heating matts. Heating only connected a week ago and dark lines showing on most tiles?

possible causes? Any help/ guidance appreciated. Laid by tiler not DIY.
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Hi. Did he use grey adhesive?

 

[demi34]

They are 2 things you have to know, did the tiler cover the underfloor heating with self levelling and he gone for grey adhesive and dot and dab.

 

[Ian gall]

Hi. Did he use grey adhesive?

Yes

 

[Ian gall]

Yes

and that would show through an 8mm porcelain tile?

 

[Ian gall]

They are 2 things you have to know, did the tiler cover the underfloor heating with self levelling and he gone for grey adhesive and dot and dab.

Hi
heating matts covered in self levelling screed and watch him and full coverage not dot and dab.Adhesive was grey though , tiles are 8mm porcelain

 

[demi34]

Might be the quality of the tiles

 

[Dave]

and that would show through an 8mm porcelain tile?

It has been known yes , hence why a solid bed is best achieved.. on light tiles no matter the biscuit ( body ) , i use white adhesive.

 

[Ian gall]

Might be the quality of the tiles

thanks for responses.....don’t know how I would prove tiles were at fault?

So grey adhesive ok to have been used as long as not dot and dab?

tiles laid some 4 weeks ago and heating only hooked up a week ago.

could marks go away? or will i have to live with them, as don’t fancy floor coming back up in a large 33sq meter Kitchen area.

trying to be sure in first instance it’s not likely to be a fitting issue.

 

[Ian gall]

It has been known yes , hence why a solid bed is best achieved.. on light tiles no matter the biscuit ( body ) , i use white adhesive.

Thnx. Are lines likely to be permanent? Tiles laid 4 weeks ago UFH only hooked up a week or so ago.

 

[Mike the Tiler]

new porcelain floor tiles laid 4 weeks ago over new electric heating matts. Heating only connected a week ago and dark lines showing on most tiles?

possible causes? Any help/ guidance appreciated. Laid by tiler not DIY.
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We had a similar issue on a job. We were brought in to investigate for insurance purposes.
1.There was no membrane put down onto the new concrete flooring and the moisture came through from the concrete into the grey adhesive and stained the tiles.
2. The tiles weren't fitted correctly many where dot and dabbed there was actually pools of moisture when we lifted the tile.
3. The tiles where laid onto concrete that was new and hadn't been allowed to cure and dry long enough.
Hope this help

 

[Ian gall]

We had a similar issue on a job. We were brought in to investigate for insurance purposes.
1.There was no membrane put down onto the new concrete flooring and the moisture came through from the concrete into the grey adhesive and stained the tiles.
2. The tiles weren't fitted correctly many where dot and dabbed there was actually pools of moisture when we lifted the tile.
3. The tiles where laid onto concrete that was new and hadn't been allowed to cure and dry long enough.
Hope this help

Thanks for that.

the kitchen was extended so part old floor part new, there was a DPM but down on new floor,. New floor was a quick set of about a week, but was left for some 6 weeks before anything went down onto it, however the lines are on tiles on both old and new floor so,fairly sure It’s not the floor. I assume that’s a reasonable assumption?

 

[Dave]

Thanks for that.

the kitchen was extended so part old floor part new, there was a DPM but down on new floor,. New floor was a quick set of about a week, but was left for some 6 weeks before anything went down onto it, however the lines are on tiles on both old and new floor so,fairly sure It’s not the floor. I assume that’s a reasonable assumption?

It’s the adhesive, sorry but simple as that.

 

[Ian gall]

It’s the adhesive, sorry but simple as that.

truth hurts! I now have to decide having new tiles ripped up with all the mess involved even more of an issue with electric UFH mats underneath or live with the lines 😱

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

new porcelain floor tiles laid 4 weeks ago over new electric heating matts. Heating only connected a week ago and dark lines showing on most tiles?

possible causes? Any help/ guidance appreciated. Laid by tiler not DIY.
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My guess is that the SLC didn't lose it's required moisture content prior to tiling, and everybody just carried own piling down more stuff and trapping more moisture...
Put a carpet over it,