It’s New tools tuesdays - Tile Advice

[Waluigi]

For me, the smaller diamond coated bits are next to useless on porcelain. (6 and 8mm)

Also having to drill 50 holes in a bathroom and have it water cooled at the same time is a messy business.

If making a mess isn’t an issue then I’ll use my Marcrist PG850 with swivel arbor.

I absolutely agree that the vacuum brazed bits aren’t as smooth as the older diamond coated bits when using larger cores.

I’ve not used these ‘red’ vacuum brazed bits yet. I’d imagine they are identical to the gold bits from the same company.

 

[Flintstone]

Ali express, diatools seller is the most reputable one with a large selection.

 

[Flintstone]

Treated myself to a cordless multi tool, t stack box. A few attachments like dust extractor take off and a depth stop, some sanding pads etc

 

[Cranbrook]

You’re right, They don’t cut as well as as the cheaper diamond coated bits or whatever they are called. The cheaper bits but the expensive versions of those bits cut nicely with water. That because they are thin walled bits. It really depends on the application though. Towel rad pipes and hot and cold entering a wall mounted cupboard are covered in metal shrouds so it matters less

I mainly use the vacuum brazed M14 bits on the smaller verieties (6mm) and they cut beautifully. Every bit as good as the expensive versions.

On the @ATSDiamondTools website, it says "If you’re looking for a solution for 6,7 & 8mm holes specifically for porcelain tiles we recommend the wax filled bits over these M14 drills."

Would you not agree?

 

[Waluigi]

No I don’t agree. I prefer the M14 wax filled bits over the wax filled bits that go into a drill.

I have tried wax filled standard bits in drills. A few varieties including Marcrist, Spectrum, Mexco, Rubi dry gres with the arbor adaptor and I don’t believe they cut as well in a drill as they do in a Grinder.

This is talking about hard porcelain.

I am however talking about a cordless drill though. That might be the difference

These are the wax filled bits I use

 

[Waluigi]

Treated myself to a cordless multi tool, t stack box. A few attachments like dust extractor take off and a depth stop, some sanding pads etc

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My mate had this. It’s a beast!

I have to put up with my lowly Bosch. The Dewalt has some real grunt that’s for sure.

 

[Italy]

Be good if you add some feedback on them when you've used them, with images too please.
Started staying clear of the M14 bits, they don’t seem to be cutting clean enough unless you buy high end pieces.
I’ve moved back too the cheapest vacuum braised bits cos they’re leaving cleaner cuts

these are the ones that leave the cleanest holes.
but they cost a bang.

 

[Albert]

these are the ones that leave the cleanest holes.
but they cost a bang.

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How much is a bang in sterling Antonio

 

[Italy]

How much is a bang in sterling Antonio

but it is made in Italy, the money is used to raise the gross domestic product.

 

[Old Mod]

these are the ones that leave the cleanest holes.
but they cost a bang.

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Sigma?

 

[Waluigi]

SIGMA FRESA DIAMANTATA ......

 

[Old Mod]

SIGMA FRESA DIAMANTATA ......

Errrrr ok!

 

[Waluigi]

Just rolls off the tongue

 

[Concrete guy]

On the @ATSDiamondTools website, it says "If you’re looking for a solution for 6,7 & 8mm holes specifically for porcelain tiles we recommend the wax filled bits over these M14 drills."

We do say that, and that's our experience based almost entirely on customer feedback.

However, remember that tiling and tilers makes up only a very small percentage of our customer base. We sell to all sorts of trades and also a couple of larger resellers, so we probably sell more wax filled drills to Plumbers (and other second fix trades) than to tilers. Especially on a commercial scale.

Using drill bits on grinders is a relatively new thing to the UK and many people are either not aware or not comfortable using a grinder to drill.

So on the whole the wax filled drill bits are a better all round product for fixing type holes, for all trades in all circumstances.

For a tiler fixing extremely hard porcelain and used to using a grinder to drill, an M14 6mm is probably more appropriate. It's one of the reasons companies like us sell multiple products that appear to do the same thing. people (or sometimes a particular job) may suit one over another.

 

[Cranbrook]

We do say that, and that's our experience based almost entirely on customer feedback.

However, remember that tiling and tilers makes up only a very small percentage of our customer base. We sell to all sorts of trades and also a couple of larger resellers, so we probably sell more wax filled drills to Plumbers (and other second fix trades) than to tilers. Especially on a commercial scale.

Using drill bits on grinders is a relatively new thing to the UK and many people are either not aware or not comfortable using a grinder to drill.

So on the whole the wax filled drill bits are a better all round product for fixing type holes, for all trades in all circumstances.

For a tiler fixing extremely hard porcelain and used to using a grinder to drill, an M14 6mm is probably more appropriate. It's one of the reasons companies like us sell multiple products that appear to do the same thing. people (or sometimes a particular job) may suit one over another.

I'm going to order a 6mm grinder drill but from you and compare the both for myself