Discuss Help ... 2 different tiles joint don’t line up (assumed both 30x60 but not) in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.com

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Hi,

I bough two types of tiles, one of them being 300x600 rectified split face for a future wall, and the rest 300x600 marble.

Only after laying few raws of the split face and one of the marble on one wall, I found out a day after that the joints don’t line up at an internal corner - I know should have checked this but I laid the last marble raw at 2am and in rush ... big mistake. I checked the dimensions and it turns out the the marble tiles are less than 300mm. There is almost 5mm difference between them at the joint. What is the best course of action? If I realised this during set out I would have shifted the future wall tiles and that way I’d have bigger tile cuts at the window but too late now. Would adding a raw of mosaic on top and below of the marble tile help sorting this out? Thanks
 

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60x30 or 600x300 will be the nominal size, which is more of a guideline to the dimensions rather than an exact specification, as you can get variations in size between materials, batches or different manufacturers.

That said, do you have any images of what you have done so far? How long is the wall? Mosaics could detract from it if you had a deep enough row of them, but deliberately staggering the joints to half or 1/3 bond between the two materials, while not ideal, would still be better IMO than it looking like you tried to line the joints up and failed.
 
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Thanks for coming back to me. I will try to add some photos when I get home. I can get mosaics of the same brand/style as the marble and same thickness. Nevertheless, I’m thinking of ripping off what I have done so far and start again. I think this is the best solution. I have used tile backer boards (similar to wedi), can I reuse these after I remove the tiles from it? Thanks
 

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I would replace them. They rarely survive when pulling tiles off unless the adhesive is still wet, as you may pull the cement face off, or at least loosen or damage it. Wouldn't risk going over them again.
 
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This is the the type type of situations that makes you think, I really should have got a pro to do it. It took me a while to install the split face tiles around the window, broke many tiles to get the cuts correct and it pains to me to take them off now but oh well. Thanks and I appreciate your advice.
 

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Post some photos, someone may have an idea if they can see the problem.
 
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Please see the photos above. The difference between the tiles are 3-4mm. The battens below the first tile row is the cradle for the bathtub, which it’s finish level will be 40mm higher. A ~225mm tile is needed below the first row to the bathtub. Also I’d appreciate some feedback on the tiling so far given it’s my first time. Thanks
 
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Yes and the bathtub front panel, I will use the marble for all the other walls and the floor.
 

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I think I would centre the marble tile on the second grout joint up of the split faced tiles and work up and down from there so the joints are almost half tile staggered.
 
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Are the split faced tiles centred from floor to ceiling?
centred on the window and the window is not in the centre of the wall. I think that will work, although I will have a small awkward cut up the first row but at least I will have one awkwardly lined joint. The joint below the first row will match and and I can cut them at the bath to match too. Shall I repeat the same on the opposite wall?
 

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Butt joint the split face so it looks like one sheet ( as much as possible).

Tile the rest as normal..
 
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How about keeping the split face tiles and adjusting the marbles as Boggs suggested?
 

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the split face should be laid almost without spacers,
1 mm maximum, otherwise it loses the continuous wall effect.
therefore alignments separated from the other walls.
best solution would be to remove the split face and
Misalign widely from the other tiles.
 
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Is it generally okay to lay tiles without any spacing or butted? Also do you think it is a good combination with the marble tiles? I have a feeling that they really don’t match up and should go with the marble tile for all the walls. Thanks
 
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Is it generally okay to lay tiles without any spacing or butted?
NO,BUT IN THIS CASE, YES
Also do you think it is a good combination with the marble tiles? YES, I LIKE IT
I have a feeling that they really don’t match up and should go with the marble tile for all the walls.
SHOULD NOT MATCH,
it is A WALL THAT MUST REMAIN DETACHED
FROM THE REST OF THE BATHROOM.
IT MUST SEEM A STONE WALL, IT MUST NOT
COMBINE WITH OTHER WALLS
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Cheers guys. Thought a lot of this this morning on my way to work and decided to take it all off and start again. I’ll take into account your advices and update you of the outcome. Thanks again. :)
 
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